I sure hope the super duty bed is a lot stronger than the F150!
#47
I want the aluminum, and I'd be upset if it was steel. But Ford has already stated the "aluminum" in the Super Duty bed will be more than that in the F-150...so aluminum it is.
#49
#50
But, as PT Barnum said....there is a sucker born every minute!!!!
#51
Ridiculous ads....who drops broken concrete blocks with the points down from a front end loader with the bucket very high into their pickup???
What next a helicopter or plane crashes into an f150 and the dent it leaves proves aluminum is weak.
Desperate GMC and chevy grasping at any bull**** they can find.
What next a helicopter or plane crashes into an f150 and the dent it leaves proves aluminum is weak.
Desperate GMC and chevy grasping at any bull**** they can find.
#52
My GMC hood had a golf ball surface after one season under my oak trees.
#53
I was just talking about that commercial with my dad. If for some dumb reason I was going to let someone dump cinder blocks or any large rock in the back of my truck, and they raised the bucket all the way up to do it, I promise they would have a bloody noise when they got out of the cab!
#54
You guys really need to get off the beaten path and see how pickups are really used.
You really think jobox's are nicely set in the bed?
Face it. The F150 bed is not as durable as the competition or previous generations. If it was, this wouldn't be a discussion AT ALL. It's basic metalurgy. Aluminum needs at least 3x material thickness to compare with steel.
Ford trimmed some corners and got exposed. They easily could have sacrificed a few pounds of aluminum weight savings for a thicker bed but they elected to gamble and gave the competition a huge bludgeoning tool.
Unless ford is willing to beef up the pop can floor in the SD line, you can bet the competition will continue to club them over the head with it.
You really think jobox's are nicely set in the bed?
Face it. The F150 bed is not as durable as the competition or previous generations. If it was, this wouldn't be a discussion AT ALL. It's basic metalurgy. Aluminum needs at least 3x material thickness to compare with steel.
Ford trimmed some corners and got exposed. They easily could have sacrificed a few pounds of aluminum weight savings for a thicker bed but they elected to gamble and gave the competition a huge bludgeoning tool.
Unless ford is willing to beef up the pop can floor in the SD line, you can bet the competition will continue to club them over the head with it.
#55
You guys really need to get off the beaten path and see how pickups are really used.
You really think jobox's are nicely set in the bed?
Face it. The F150 bed is not as durable as the competition or previous generations. If it was, this wouldn't be a discussion AT ALL. It's basic metalurgy. Aluminum needs at least 3x material thickness to compare with steel.
Ford trimmed some corners and got exposed. They easily could have sacrificed a few pounds of aluminum weight savings for a thicker bed but they elected to gamble and gave the competition a huge bludgeoning tool.
Unless ford is willing to beef up the pop can floor in the SD line, you can bet the competition will continue to club them over the head with it.
You really think jobox's are nicely set in the bed?
Face it. The F150 bed is not as durable as the competition or previous generations. If it was, this wouldn't be a discussion AT ALL. It's basic metalurgy. Aluminum needs at least 3x material thickness to compare with steel.
Ford trimmed some corners and got exposed. They easily could have sacrificed a few pounds of aluminum weight savings for a thicker bed but they elected to gamble and gave the competition a huge bludgeoning tool.
Unless ford is willing to beef up the pop can floor in the SD line, you can bet the competition will continue to club them over the head with it.
#56
Originally Posted by troverman
With all due respect, you're coming across like a fool. Only a total moron would place a heavy metal toolbox on the bed rail instead of an open tailgate. Likewise, an idiot would have a loader operator drop sharp landscaping rocks from maximum height into the bed. The aluminum bed is perfectly suited for all uses short of stupidity. If you don't like it, feel free to buy a GM truck.
Since 2008, I have worked for Alcoa aluminum company, in maintenance since 2011. My facility is going to be producing the aluminum for the new superduty. As I've stated on here before, they alloy make up for auto aluminum is totally different than that of a soda pop can. It's kind of like comparing a tin can to a railroad track rail(not saying the new aluminum is that strong, just a comparison). If you look at the pre 2015 trucks, the sheet metal had been rolled so thin, the doors would shake and distort when you shut them, very flimsy. The new aluminum has allowed them to stiffen up the doors and they are much for solid when shutting them.
If ford wants to put a stop to the idiotic bashing of the bed floor, the solution is pretty simply. Make a Bedliner, plastic or spray in, standard. Everyone wants one in any new truck anyway. Gm is just grasping for anything they can, because once again, they are behind the competition.
#57
Totally agree, I used my trucks in the construction field for years, hauling tools and materials. In those years, I only put a handful of small blemishes on my trucks, never anything remotely close to what they are advertising. I work to hard for my money to treat my stuff that way. Only an idiot would.
Since 2008, I have worked for Alcoa aluminum company, in maintenance since 2011. My facility is going to be producing the aluminum for the new superduty. As I've stated on here before, they alloy make up for auto aluminum is totally different than that of a soda pop can. It's kind of like comparing a tin can to a railroad track rail(not saying the new aluminum is that strong, just a comparison). If you look at the pre 2015 trucks, the sheet metal had been rolled so thin, the doors would shake and distort when you shut them, very flimsy. The new aluminum has allowed them to stiffen up the doors and they are much for solid when shutting them.
If ford wants to put a stop to the idiotic bashing of the bed floor, the solution is pretty simply. Make a Bedliner, plastic or spray in, standard. Everyone wants one in any new truck anyway. Gm is just grasping for anything they can, because once again, they are behind the competition.
Since 2008, I have worked for Alcoa aluminum company, in maintenance since 2011. My facility is going to be producing the aluminum for the new superduty. As I've stated on here before, they alloy make up for auto aluminum is totally different than that of a soda pop can. It's kind of like comparing a tin can to a railroad track rail(not saying the new aluminum is that strong, just a comparison). If you look at the pre 2015 trucks, the sheet metal had been rolled so thin, the doors would shake and distort when you shut them, very flimsy. The new aluminum has allowed them to stiffen up the doors and they are much for solid when shutting them.
If ford wants to put a stop to the idiotic bashing of the bed floor, the solution is pretty simply. Make a Bedliner, plastic or spray in, standard. Everyone wants one in any new truck anyway. Gm is just grasping for anything they can, because once again, they are behind the competition.
I've noted the aluminum doors feel much stiffer and better than the previous gen doors. We had a 2011 F-150 and recently traded for a 2016. The 2011 was a great truck, miss the 5.0L sound, but the aluminum doors are definitely more rigid feeling.
#58
For years I put a sheet of 3/4 plywood in the box to protect the floor, and then came the bedliners which did a great job of protecting albeit slippery, so then the rubber mat on top of the bedliner. Now, new polymers and coatings seem to have pretty impressive standards. Dealer talked me into Linex coating and advertisement through youtube and pamphlet looks good. I do not use a truck for work daily as I did years ago but even with a steel bed I would never consider the antics of the competition's commercials without some form of protection. Just dump one load of blocks in any bed and then watch the rust. I'm happy to give AL a chance and I am happy to afford it the protections required for the job at hand.
#59
For years I put a sheet of 3/4 plywood in the box to protect the floor, and then came the bedliners which did a great job of protecting albeit slippery, so then the rubber mat on top of the bedliner. Now, new polymers and coatings seem to have pretty impressive standards. Dealer talked me into Linex coating and advertisement through youtube and pamphlet looks good. I do not use a truck for work daily as I did years ago but even with a steel bed I would never consider the antics of the competition's commercials without some form of protection. Just dump one load of blocks in any bed and then watch the rust. I'm happy to give AL a chance and I am happy to afford it the protections required for the job at hand.
#60
Thanks for the endorsement on Line-X. I have heard a lot of bad press on the Rhino, mostly due to sloppy workmanship. Our local LineX has a good reputation as do most installers working with a dealership. Same price either direct of through dealer so I know the dealer is making a few bucks off it. I only gripe is an extra day b4 delivery of truck to me, but after this long one more day won't hurt.