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quick question

looking to eventually getting a 2017 F350 LB:

Wife doesn't like the Ford GN setup and she is leaning towards the B&W turnover ball we currently have on a 05 F350. I personally think it's also easier than the Ford/Reese one: turnover ball and spring loaded chains hookups, versus storing the ball and screwing in the hooks for the chains.

The GN package comes with the prep kit but also the bed mounted brake plug: any way of getting the plug from the factory?

any pros of having the Ford solution instead of aftermarket B&W installation?

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Old 06-08-2016, 03:08 PM
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No way to just get the plug.

On pros of the factory system, there are a few. The holes in the bed are precisely cut before painting. Less likely to have corrosion start. Yes, it's aluminum but it will corrode if exposed for any length of time and start peeling the adjacent paint. Second is cost. It's 300 or so invoice to have it factory installed with the in bed wiring too. I understand why you like the BW setup but I personally couldn't skip the factory install for the cost.
 
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Thanks

as for your points:
-corrosion: we'll get a spray-on bed liner, but would the wrty on the Ford one be voided if you basically install an aftermarket GN kit?

-cost: Would it be feasibly to get the GN prep kit and basically re-shape the holes for a B&W? they should pretty much be in the same place in the bed
 
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Originally Posted by petei
The 2011 2X4 I ORDER IT COME WITH 5TH PACKAGE WHY THE 2X4 2017 DON'T,THE 4X4 COME WITH ONE.IT IS A LOT OF LABOR TO INSTALL IT AFTER.The bed need to be remove and drill for the electrical connection and pucks.
It doesn't need to be removed. A couple of bolts get loosened and you raise one side. It's an easy do it yourself. In fact the Reese aftermarket kit comes with the bed size torx bit.

I'm a B&W man myself.
 
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Old 06-08-2016, 04:28 PM
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I talk with the dealer and they want 950 for installation but I don't like that because they will use hole saw to drill for the pucks and that is not laser cut.I don't know what to do Ford mess it up bad
 
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Old 06-08-2016, 04:35 PM
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Order a 4x4.
 
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Order a 4x4.
Another feature that should be standard on all pickups. Why do people by 4x2?
 
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Originally Posted by AK_SuperDuty
Another feature that should be standard on all pickups. Why do people by 4x2?
Lots of folks that never leave the blacktop. And aren't in places where there is snow...
 
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I never leave the blacktop except when RVing but it sure does come in handy at lots of campgrounds I've been to. Wet grass or mud plus a 20k RV = 4WD is necessary from time to time.
 
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Why do people by 4x2?
I don't go in mud or snow....I don't want extra parts... extra weight I don't need... Extra drag I don't need... I want my truck lower... I don't want "death wobble" in a few years...

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nother feature that should be standard on all pickups. Why do people by 4x2
Yes, lets make it a requirement to spend thousands more so you don't have to feel like your paying for an option you always get!

Even if you go off road, 4x2 works just fine in most settings except snow and very wet areas, generally both of those make poor driving locations anyhow. Folks like me have other tools for when you need more traction (like a tractor). I realize the less space you have the more you need one tool to do the job, but I would never get my money out of 4x4. Commercial applications often have no need for it either. They drive on the pavement and just off enough to get to a job site. A rear locker would do the job for 10% of the cost.
 
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Yes, lets make it a requirement to spend thousands more so you don't have to feel like your paying for an option you always get!

Even if you go off road, 4x2 works just fine in most settings except snow and very wet areas, generally both of those make poor driving locations anyhow. Folks like me have other tools for when you need more traction (like a tractor). I realize the less space you have the more you need one tool to do the job, but I would never get my money out of 4x4. Commercial applications often have no need for it either. They drive on the pavement and just off enough to get to a job site. A rear locker would do the job for 10% of the cost.
I guess it's just the region I come from. In Alaska I can't imagine a 2wd pickup. I've seen old collector models around, but not functional everyday use vehicles. I know I'll never own anything less than a 4x4.
 
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Anybody know if the F350 COME WITH THE HOLES FOR PUCKS ALL READY DRILL?
 
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It does not.
 
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Anybody know if the F350 COME WITH THE HOLES FOR PUCKS ALL READY DRILL?
Hey petei, where are you from?
 


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