I was wondering if it's possible to swap a T18 4sp from a 1963 f250 4x4 292 to a 1984 f150 4x4 351 that currently has a C6 in it? If not what would be a good 4X4 manual transmission to swap in place of the C6?

 

I'd be interested in that '63 F250
Not sure why You are looking to ditch the C6 though.....is it trashed?

 

Unless someone swapped it in there, your '63 does not have a T18. It would have had a T98.

I am pretty sure the transmission to bell pattern for that will be the square pattern, vs. the butterfly or rectangular pattern of '65 and later transmissions, including the T18 introduced in 1965.

You seem to have a lot of questions about how to make major changes to the '84. Your other thread wanders all over axle and diesel motor and stroker changes.

What's wrong with driving it as it is? If it currently runs, drives, shifts, steers, goes, stops and turns, drive it.

If you want something else very different from it, buy it.

IMO even though I like a good manual trans, I would never butcher up a running truck to put a clunky gap-toothed T98 in place of a smooth shifting properly functioning C6.

 

I'm thinking about making a toy outa the 63
Nope nothing wrong with the C6 I just miss drive a stick. Both my trucks have the C6 in them and drove my dads 95 f250 with a ZF5 today and I forgot how much fun driving stick shift is. And I need to correct myself, the T18 would possibly go on a 460 I'm thinking about buying off of the local mechanic, if not it'll go on a 351

 

Hahaha I get a lot of wild ideas on how I wanna build this truck on lmao I think I've settled on a Just 460 and manual tranny swap. As I said I miss driving a standard transmission.
I got bad info about it being a T18 because I had a 64' f100 4wd same engine as the 63 that I was told had a T18

 

oh and I can't really afford anything different because a good 4x4 92+ F150- F350 here in my area can hardly be found for under 2500. Mind that I say a "good one" as in one that hasn't had the dog s**t beat out of it! especially if it's 4wd! Not to mention you can't find a 7.3 around here under 5 or 6k! Hardly anybody wants to sell which you can't blame then since these are tough ol' trucks.

 

High Five !
Let's see what shape the C6 is in though. I wonder if the poster has a possible donor and is kicking around options. As much as I hate to admit it...."BashBuilds" seem to have become popular. The term Rat rod has become...way over used.

 

Look, I think $2500 is real money just like most folks, but $2500 for a runner is NOTHING.

How much money do you think a power train swap will cost? How much time? Is your time worth anything?

Powertrain swaps can be complicated by the simplest things. Many result in the truck ending up with a tree growed up through the engine compartment, or become parts trucks for the next guy.

It's good to ask lots of questions. Make note of the answers you don't like as well them flagging your forward.

Good luck with it/them/etc.

 

Does thistle growing up under my bed count?

 

I know a powertrain build ain't the cheapest but I can't hardly stand to pay 2500 for something that somebody is selling because it's beat to hell because they think it's worth something. I give 800 for my 84 but that's all it was really worth because the body is beat to crap with a door off of another truck because the original door got ripped off and some other things like the bolts holding one side of the bumper on and the grille being smashed to pieces. I've made progress on getting it put back together (new grille pieces bumper remounted and holes fixed etc.) I just want to put better stuff in it like a big block with a standered tranny. I have way to many ideas but I do have lots of time to think about stuff that might be fun to do

 

If you are going to the effort to swap trannies, I would not even consider the 4 speeds. I would swap in a zf like your dad has, and get overdrive and better fuel mileage and a quieter truck on the highway.

 

Here's what a 460 zf is going for in Texas. The ones at the top are reman's.

1996
Transmission
Ford Truck F250 not Super Duty REMAN, 3YR/100K PART LABOR WARRANTY [400-02279] 1,000 A ASA002 $1975 Grimes Truck & Auto Parts - PRP Midwest USA-TX(Grand-Prairie) Request_Quote 1-800-643-5811 Request_Insurance_Quote

Transmission
REMAN-ZF- GAS- 4WD- 5 SPEED BS1400 $1687.99 A1 Partsmart USA-TX(Austin) E-mail 1-800-426-5385 / 1-512-243-2718
1996
Transmission
Ford Truck 350 REBUILT 460 4X4 011106 $1050 Best Recycled Auto Parts USA-TX(Pasadena) Request_Quote 877-505-9281 Request_Insurance_Quote
1993
Transmission
Ford Truck F450 RUNS GOOD 11118717 $600 Al's Foreign Wrecking Yard USA-TX(Nevada) Request_Quote 972-843-2021 / 972-843-4327 Request_Insurance_Quote
1996
Transmission
Ford Truck F350 TESTED GOOD CHECK ID 11159698 $600 Al's Foreign Wrecking Yard USA-TX(Nevada) Request_Quote 972-843-2021 / 972-843-4327 Request_Insurance_Quote
1992
Transmission
Ford Truck F450 5SPEED 4X4 7.5L 460 080104 $Call Bronco Truck & Auto Salvage USA-TX(Houston) Request_Quote 800-383-1961 / 281-448-2792 Request_Insurance_Quote
1995
Transmission
Ford Truck 350 $650 Triple C Recycling USA-TX(Dallas) E-mail 888-331-1134
1993
Transmission
Ford Truck F250 5 speed 4x4 460,STOCK NO. #0001300 #0001300 $600 David's Auto Salvage USA-TX(Abilene) E-mail 325-672-3410
1996
Transmission
Ford Truck F250 STOCK NO. I3302008 I3302008 $500 David's Auto Salvage USA-TX(Abilene) E-mail 325-672-3410
Year
Part
Model Description Miles Part
Grade Stock# US
Price Dealer Info

 

I considered a ZF5 but my dad has had nothing but hell with the one in his 95. About every 18 months or so it has to have a new clutch and slave cylinder. This last time he had it worked on the mechanic said that there was a lot of dirt in the bell housing and that's what cause it to go out again. It all ways goes out at it's been in any kind of mud and the 4x4 has been used. I might see if I can talk my dad into swapping his 95 for my 84 since the 84 is a better truck for what he needs (farm truck)

 

I don't know how you are getting"dirt" in the bellhousing.

Do you have the rubber boot in place on the clutch fork?
Dirt (mostly cilica) is going to eat up any disc in front of ANY gearbox.

Otherwise you have a seal problem and it is an oily, dirty mess in there and the fluid is soaking the friction disc.

Neither of these problems are the Zf's fault.

Your father would probably be better off with a C6, given his use of the truck.

 

The only place that I can see where dirt could get in is where the hydraulic line goes in to the slave cylinder.
My dad actually just got the truck back for the shop yesterday and the mechanical was showing us that the pressure plate was worn and warped and he told me the other day when I went to ask him a question about something, that the slave cylinder was leaking and that sand got to it. He also replaced all the bad bearings and I'm not sure what else. I just don't have any idea what putting it in 4wd has to do with killing the slave cylinder. I like the ZF5 but I'm kinda scared of it because of the experience I've had with the one in my dads 95