1980 - 1986 Bullnose F100, F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks Discuss the Early Eighties Bullnose Ford Truck

2wd / 4wd auto/manual

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #1  
Old 05-30-2016, 03:51 PM
RageOfAntioch's Avatar
RageOfAntioch
RageOfAntioch is offline
Freshman User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 45
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
2wd / 4wd auto/manual

Alright here's the deal two trucks

1984 Ford F-150 302 automatic trans 2wd

1984 Ford F-150 302 manual trans 4wd.

Will the transfer case out of the 4x4 bolt up to the automatic trans?

What else would I need to swap front and rear axles , drive shafts , transfer case... Anything else ? But mostly will the transfer case from the 4x4 bolt up to the auto
 
  #2  
Old 05-30-2016, 05:32 PM
DeereFord300's Avatar
DeereFord300
DeereFord300 is offline
Elder User
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Maryland
Posts: 524
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
It will not bolt up
 
  #3  
Old 05-30-2016, 07:03 PM
81ChopTop's Avatar
81ChopTop
81ChopTop is offline
Laughing Gas
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Wausau, WI
Posts: 1,032
Likes: 0
Received 9 Likes on 5 Posts
The tail shafts between 2 and 4 wheel drive are different lengths (inside the trans).

If both trucks have the same rear axle, you have everything needed to do the swap if you used the manual trans.

What auto is in the truck, C-6 or AOD?
 
  #4  
Old 05-30-2016, 08:16 PM
RageOfAntioch's Avatar
RageOfAntioch
RageOfAntioch is offline
Freshman User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 45
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I'm not sure which transmission the auto has I believe it is the c6

Why do you ask?
 
  #5  
Old 05-30-2016, 08:35 PM
RageOfAntioch's Avatar
RageOfAntioch
RageOfAntioch is offline
Freshman User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 45
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
What would I need to keep the auto tranny ...
 
  #6  
Old 05-30-2016, 08:58 PM
DeereFord300's Avatar
DeereFord300
DeereFord300 is offline
Elder User
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Maryland
Posts: 524
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
You would need to open up the trans and switch tail shafts, which would mean you'd have to buy a 4x4 trans to find the shaft. A 4x4 C6 is as common as a rock, so you could prob trade somebody if youd like to still have an auto
 
  #7  
Old 05-30-2016, 09:47 PM
Nothing Special's Avatar
Nothing Special
Nothing Special is online now
Logistics Pro
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Roseville, MN
Posts: 4,964
Likes: 0
Received 50 Likes on 45 Posts
Originally Posted by RageOfAntioch
What would I need to keep the auto tranny ...
To keep the current tranny without going to unreasonable lengths you need to keep the truck 2WD.

Or as DeereFord said, you could buy a 4WD C6, take all of the parts out of it, take all of the parts out of your 2WD C6, take the tailshaft and tailshaft housing from the 4WD C6 and put them in your 2WD. You might be able to do the reassembly yourself, but auto trannies seem to be one of those things where everyone uses a shop (I've never done it so I can't say whether I think you can do it at home or not).

The ONLY way this would come close to making sense is if you have a freshly rebuilt 2WD C6 and you can get a junked 4WD C6 essentially for free. Then MAYBE it would be cheaper to change the 2WD trans to 4WD than it would be to rebuild the 4WD. But even then you'd probably be money ahead to sell the 2WD trans and buy and rebuild a 4WD one.
 
  #8  
Old 05-30-2016, 10:28 PM
RageOfAntioch's Avatar
RageOfAntioch
RageOfAntioch is offline
Freshman User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 45
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I'm just trying to figure out what I should do I have a clean 2wd f150 auto that was owned by my father original owner and I would love it to be 4wd and I have whole 4wd truck that the body isn't as clean on that's a manual transmission
 
  #9  
Old 05-31-2016, 11:47 AM
Nothing Special's Avatar
Nothing Special
Nothing Special is online now
Logistics Pro
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Roseville, MN
Posts: 4,964
Likes: 0
Received 50 Likes on 45 Posts
The simplest would probably be to move your dad's truck body over to the 4WD chassis and end up with a manual trans 4WD that is sorta your dad's old truck. You'd need to keep the pedal assembly from the manual trans truck, and I'm not sure what would be the easiest way to do the wiring: keep it from the 2WD body? the 4WD chassis/engine? some hybrid combination?

If you want an auto 4WD in your dad's truck it'd still be easiest to swap your dad's cab & bed to the 4WD chassis, but first get a 4WD auto trans and stick that in.

On the other hand, if you don't want to swap chassis (the 4WD frame is rusted out too, or sentimental reasons, which are very valid), I don't think it's too hard to swap the front axle from a 4WD F-150 to a 2WD F-150. Then get a 4WD trans (or use the manual that's in your donor truck) and put the 4WD trans and transfer case in your dad's truck. I'm not sure what you'll need to do with the rear suspension (the 2WD suspension will sit too low, but the 4WD uses wider spring leaves so you can't stick them on your 2WD truck without a little more work). And you will need to make sure the front and rear axles use the same gear ratio (maybe use the rear axle from the 4WD as well as the front).

It might even be be that converting the 2WD truck to 4WD is easier than swapping bodies and that should be your first choice. I don't know, maybe others can weigh in.
 
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Lambo333
1980 - 1986 Bullnose F100, F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks
17
05-28-2019 10:07 AM
Full.time.beauty
1973 - 1979 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
2
03-25-2013 10:08 PM
ford5.8
1973 - 1979 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
18
09-16-2012 12:40 PM
giggles1855
1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks
6
02-21-2012 03:43 PM
Trykbos
Pre-Power Stroke Diesel (7.3L IDI & 6.9L)
1
08-09-2011 10:58 PM



Quick Reply: 2wd / 4wd auto/manual



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:14 PM.