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Old 03-09-2016, 12:18 AM
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Did You sign the Petition?

Did you all sign the petition to stop the EPA? I received an email from Summit Racing that told me about it.
<table width="600" bgcolor="#ffffff" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td style="line-height: 13px" align="left" valign="top" width="600">Last chance to sign the petition against the EPA’s threat against your hobby.
View this email online.

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SEMA opposes the EPA’s latest proposed regulation prohibiting the conversion of on-road vehicles into race cars—and Summit Racing stands with them! Find out more about this potentially devastating regulation and learn what you can do about it below. Stand up for your hobby!

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Say “No” to EPA’s Threat to Motorsports: SEMA Opposes Regulation Prohibiting Conversion of Vehicles into Racecars

</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="line-height:22px; padding-left:16px; padding-right:10px;" align="left" valign="top" width="600">SEMA has issued a press release informing the public that the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) is aiming to make it illegal to convert automobiles originally designed for on-road use into racecars, even though such conversions have been done for decades. Under the EPA’s proposed rule, it would also be illegal to sell any performance-related products for those cars. The EPA’s proposal would have a devastating impact on motorsports since many types of racing rely on production vehicles that have been modified for use strictly at the track.

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</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="line-height:22px; padding-left:16px; padding-right:10px;" align="left" valign="top" width="600">Request opposition for this regulation by using the following SAN website link for an overview and link to sign the White House Petition.


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Hahaha. What a bunch of retards! Glad I live in Canada. Our government forces the big corporations to buck up and clean up rather than letting them continue to cause all the pollution. Seems the US would rather restrict and force the tax payers to cut there carbon foot print so the big boys can pump the economy. It sure seems to be a long stretch though. They must be pretty desperate to meet there Carbon allotment. Lol. Ask them if recycling vehicles is cleaner than building a new one??? Media would love that one. They can't win that argument. You could recycle ten vehicles for the foot print it takes to build a new one. That said, maybe if the US recycled period. Then there foot print would be much smaller and they wouldn't need this. Canadians recycle everything. We even make gems out of garbage. Hahaha. Big business, saves tons of money, and cuts that carbon foot print down huge. And the big corporations buy the recycled stuff reducing there foot print too. Time to solve the issue, not displace it.
 
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The latest news is there is a group that is slowing this down. I saw a link the other day on another website.

Legislation to amend EPA proposal could make racecars legal again
 
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So its actually real!!!! Hahahahaha. How crazy. Who could have thought that one up? Wouldn't vote for that guy again. What a whacko!
 
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I seen this recently what a bunch of crap. If it comes Down to it they should have it so it only applies to new cars. If it's a classic then you should be able to modify it as you want.
 
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I seen this recently what a bunch of crap. If it comes Down to it they should have it so it only applies to new cars. If it's a classic then you should be able to modify it as you want.
New vehicles are virtually emissions free compared to old, so that's obviously what they are thinking. Funny thing is, if they take it away then your only choice is to restore to stock, to be legal. Now is the stock vehicle better on emissions than your hot rod. Probably not since most hot rodding involves upgrades that make the motors better, and pollute less!! So they got it back wards. People will still restore, so they will get a bunch of stock polluters instead of a bunch of hot rod cleaner burners. They are cutting there own throats. Also, once you limit race cars to the pros only, then interest in those vehicles and events plummet and disappear. Most technological advances in vehicles comes from racing. Also the car manufacturers depend on racing for those advancements and to gain customers!!! There goes your economy. Darn, cutting your throat, and jabbing yourselves in the eye!!!
 
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How would they know you converted your vehicle to a race car? Race cars aren't typically registered or inspected. This is not new legislation, merely clarification of existing law concerning tampering with emissions equipment. Still, EPA has too much power.
 
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Originally Posted by spdcat72
How would they know you converted your vehicle to a race car? Race cars aren't typically registered or inspected. This is not new legislation, merely clarification of existing law concerning tampering with emissions equipment. Still, EPA has too much power.
That would be different. They would only need to pull you over and look to know its altered. The article posted did say they were looking to even make selling the parts illegal. So reads to me that its a completely different law being pondered. But you may be right, they may just be deciding to enforce existing laws.
 
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Do a Google search, dig out the proposal and read it. And the discussion.
What you have here is a lobby effort by a 26 billion dollar industry to get us to carry their water.
While you are on Google, see a list of the senators and congressman that SEMA has greased up and by how much.
 
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It doesn't make sense to me?? Doesn't SEMA depend on aftermarket parts manufacturers and hot rods to do business??? Are they not cutting there own throats. I'm in Canada so I'm not ambitious enough to read a government document. LOL, were not in this situation here. Like said above we make up pollution issues with recycling. But is still baffles me why this is even happening. It makes no sense on any level. Nothing to be gained. Except SEMA won't exist any more without us. So there point is??? I don't get it sorry. I'm confused. Guess Ill have to break down and waste my time reading that garbage if I want to figure out the craziness.
 
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It's really quite easy.
EPA is run by a bunch of Left Wing radical Dems.

Liberalism is about "feelings" not facts.

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Its the SEMA thing I don't understand. WHy would they support this.?
 
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The regulation that EPA wants would prohibit (Outlaw) conversions to race cars.

SEMA is on the RIGHT side in Opposing this ridiculous attempt to further erode our rights.

SEMA said NO. SEMA does NOT support this.
 
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Before posting more of your shi-ite try learning something besides democrat lies. The big companies are being put out of business by democrats twisting EPA regulations.

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Hahaha. What a bunch of retards! Glad I live in Canada. Our government forces the big corporations to buck up and clean up rather than letting them continue to cause all the pollution. Seems the US would rather restrict and force the tax payers to cut there carbon foot print so the big boys can pump the economy. It sure seems to be a long stretch though. They must be pretty desperate to meet there Carbon allotment. Lol. Ask them if recycling vehicles is cleaner than building a new one??? Media would love that one. They can't win that argument. You could recycle ten vehicles for the foot print it takes to build a new one. That said, maybe if the US recycled period. Then there foot print would be much smaller and they wouldn't need this. Canadians recycle everything. We even make gems out of garbage. Hahaha. Big business, saves tons of money, and cuts that carbon foot print down huge. And the big corporations buy the recycled stuff reducing there foot print too. Time to solve the issue, not displace it.
 
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Millam.

The American main stream media is so far left they've left the country. Canada is a tiny country (population wise) and all their media is left wing too.
When a young Canadian (or American) goes to school he or she are told how Bad America is. The media lampoon's Republicans and Conservatives like they are diseased. The cultures are WAY left of center but calls themselves "Centerist".

OK.. .please don't blame them or call them names because they are very low information individuals. SOMEHOW we need to get through to them that Socialism and Feelings are not the way to solve things like poverty.
so.. .give Absolute the benefit of the doubt and try to engage him in a real conversation. One without name calling.

We'll eventually get through. Reality has a way of jumping up and smacking us all.

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