Gas to Diesel Parts Compatibility?
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Gas to Diesel Parts Compatibility?
I've read lots of threads over the years on diesel swaps, but don't recall everything I went over. I would like to have a more solid list of what works here so I can be more organized for my swap. I would like help with this list, which is for anything and everything between a gas setup to a diesel setup.
I have a 302 1996 Ford Bronco, and just got a 7.3 1995 F-250. I would like to know which parts from my Bronco will be reusable for a diesel engine.
Here's what I'm thinking,
Thing going to be changed (needed):
- 7.3 motor in place of 302
- Engine wiring harness and Cabin wiring harness
- Instrument cluster/bezel and computer
- All engine accessories (alternators/PS/etc)
- Engine Mounts
- ZF5 Transmission in place of M5OD
- ZF5 transmission mount in place of M5OD mount
- ZF5 clutch hydraulics
- Stiffer front coil springs
- Exhaust
Things I should change (highly recommended but not technically needed initially)
- Swapping out axles
- Swapping out 302 radiator for 7.3 radiator
Here's where I need help:
Interchangeable parts
- The obvious (fenders/doors/interior panels)
- Cabin power option wiring harnesses (windows/mirrors/doors/overhead?)
- Fuel lines?
- Gas tank?
- Fuel Pump?
- Brake booster setup?
- Pedal assembly (clutch/gas/brake)?
- AC System? (compressor, evap, condensor?)
Any advice on things that aren't compatible would be nice. It's obvious I need the engine, wiring harness, and transmission, but the other details can be the killer. A heads up on other important things like the fuel system, or engine/tranny mount fabrications would be very helpful! Thank you!
I have a 302 1996 Ford Bronco, and just got a 7.3 1995 F-250. I would like to know which parts from my Bronco will be reusable for a diesel engine.
Here's what I'm thinking,
Thing going to be changed (needed):
- 7.3 motor in place of 302
- Engine wiring harness and Cabin wiring harness
- Instrument cluster/bezel and computer
- All engine accessories (alternators/PS/etc)
- Engine Mounts
- ZF5 Transmission in place of M5OD
- ZF5 transmission mount in place of M5OD mount
- ZF5 clutch hydraulics
- Stiffer front coil springs
- Exhaust
Things I should change (highly recommended but not technically needed initially)
- Swapping out axles
- Swapping out 302 radiator for 7.3 radiator
Here's where I need help:
Interchangeable parts
- The obvious (fenders/doors/interior panels)
- Cabin power option wiring harnesses (windows/mirrors/doors/overhead?)
- Fuel lines?
- Gas tank?
- Fuel Pump?
- Brake booster setup?
- Pedal assembly (clutch/gas/brake)?
- AC System? (compressor, evap, condensor?)
Any advice on things that aren't compatible would be nice. It's obvious I need the engine, wiring harness, and transmission, but the other details can be the killer. A heads up on other important things like the fuel system, or engine/tranny mount fabrications would be very helpful! Thank you!
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I've read lots of threads over the years on diesel swaps, but don't recall everything I went over. I would like to have a more solid list of what works here so I can be more organized for my swap. I would like help with this list, which is for anything and everything between a gas setup to a diesel setup.
I have a 302 1996 Ford Bronco, and just got a 7.3 1995 F-250. I would like to know which parts from my Bronco will be reusable for a diesel engine.
Here's what I'm thinking,
Thing going to be changed (needed):
- 7.3 motor in place of 302
- Engine wiring harness and Cabin wiring harness
- Instrument cluster/bezel and computer
- All engine accessories (alternators/PS/etc)
- Engine Mounts
- ZF5 Transmission in place of M5OD
- ZF5 transmission mount in place of M5OD mount
- ZF5 clutch hydraulics
- Stiffer front coil springs
- Exhaust
Things I should change (highly recommended but not technically needed initially)
- Swapping out axles
- Swapping out 302 radiator for 7.3 radiator you are going to have to swap in the diesel radiator. once you look at the two, you will see the diesel rad is almost twice the size of the gas rad.
Here's where I need help:
Interchangeable parts
- The obvious (fenders/doors/interior panels) nope, they are all the same except for the radiator support. that you will need to change to fit the diesel radiator in the bronco.
- Cabin power option wiring harnesses (windows/mirrors/doors/overhead?) comes with the interior wiring of the diesel donor truck
- Fuel lines? you can use the gas lines, but the diesel lines will be better
- Gas tank? same as with the lines. you can use it, but the diesel tank will be easier to use.
- Fuel Pump? gas uses high pressure E-pump, diesel uses low pressure mechanical pump mounted on engine. so no you do not need it.
- Brake booster setup? they are the same unless you switch to hydro boost.
- Pedal assembly (clutch/gas/brake)? nope, they are all the same
- AC System? (compressor, evap, condensor?) nope, they are all the same
Any advice on things that aren't compatible would be nice. It's obvious I need the engine, wiring harness, and transmission, but the other details can be the killer. A heads up on other important things like the fuel system, or engine/tranny mount fabrications would be very helpful! Thank you!
I have a 302 1996 Ford Bronco, and just got a 7.3 1995 F-250. I would like to know which parts from my Bronco will be reusable for a diesel engine.
Here's what I'm thinking,
Thing going to be changed (needed):
- 7.3 motor in place of 302
- Engine wiring harness and Cabin wiring harness
- Instrument cluster/bezel and computer
- All engine accessories (alternators/PS/etc)
- Engine Mounts
- ZF5 Transmission in place of M5OD
- ZF5 transmission mount in place of M5OD mount
- ZF5 clutch hydraulics
- Stiffer front coil springs
- Exhaust
Things I should change (highly recommended but not technically needed initially)
- Swapping out axles
- Swapping out 302 radiator for 7.3 radiator you are going to have to swap in the diesel radiator. once you look at the two, you will see the diesel rad is almost twice the size of the gas rad.
Here's where I need help:
Interchangeable parts
- The obvious (fenders/doors/interior panels) nope, they are all the same except for the radiator support. that you will need to change to fit the diesel radiator in the bronco.
- Cabin power option wiring harnesses (windows/mirrors/doors/overhead?) comes with the interior wiring of the diesel donor truck
- Fuel lines? you can use the gas lines, but the diesel lines will be better
- Gas tank? same as with the lines. you can use it, but the diesel tank will be easier to use.
- Fuel Pump? gas uses high pressure E-pump, diesel uses low pressure mechanical pump mounted on engine. so no you do not need it.
- Brake booster setup? they are the same unless you switch to hydro boost.
- Pedal assembly (clutch/gas/brake)? nope, they are all the same
- AC System? (compressor, evap, condensor?) nope, they are all the same
Any advice on things that aren't compatible would be nice. It's obvious I need the engine, wiring harness, and transmission, but the other details can be the killer. A heads up on other important things like the fuel system, or engine/tranny mount fabrications would be very helpful! Thank you!
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A little confusing:
This implies that you're parting out the Bronco.
This implies that the PSD engine is going into the Bronco.
What is the nature of the project? That will tell us what parts to use.
- 7.3 motor in place of 302
What is the nature of the project? That will tell us what parts to use.
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The engine, transmission, and all the wiring harnesses that go with the 7.3. you will need those for sure as you said. That will include anything that bolts to the fenders, battery cables etc. Under the hood of the 7.3 is different than the gas, the 2nd battery and battery tray, coolant over flow, washer fluid reservoir, I believe all that is different. Being a 95 7.3, I am not 100% sure, but Im pretty sure that holds true for 96/97 7.3 trucks. I doubt you will need anything original to the bronco. The bronco is already a stick, with the mazda 5? so the clutch pedals and clutch master cylinder should be good to go. obviously use the slave to the zf5, and the zf5 platic clutch line, if the are different. I would upgrade to the brake booster out of the 7.3 truck though. They may be the same, but I have seen some half tons with boosters significantly smaller than the ones in the 3/4 and 1 tons. You will need to swap the entire dash with the cluster and everything. If the dash is the wrong color you can either swap the wire harness in the dash, or the put the bronco dash cover on the diesel dash. I have swapped dash covers before. It will take a couple hours, and there is a lot of hidden screws. The cab harness/door pw/pl harness of the bronco should still work. If for some reason the cab harness does not have the same connectors as the the new dash harness you will need to use the cab harness of the 7.3. either way, the driver door harness should still work with any cab harness. The passenger door plugs into the dash. Also, if the bronco has a power rear window, you might need to figure that out, as i doubt the diesel dash will have the plug for the rear window switch. Same if you have push button 4x4. The HVAC should all be the same. The Radiator will be a lot bigger for the 7.3. You will probably need to use the radiator support from the donor truck as well, since the bottom loop is a lot bigger to accommodate the diesel radiators. I am not completely sure about the the fuel lines, they may be the same on the frame, but will differ at the engine. So i would use the diesel lines since you have them. Though the bronco only has one tank. so you wont need the tank selector valve. I would use the bronco fuel tank. That should be a bit bigger than the rear tank on the truck. I think the gas trucks have an in tank pump, so you will need the sending unit out of the 7.3 truck, but use the float out of the bronco so the fuel gauge reads correct. The motor mounts should bolt up to the crossmember, at least they do on gas 3/4 and 1 tons.
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Thanks for all the help guys. Sorry for confusion, my plans are putting the diesel engine into the Bronco, the F250 is the parts truck.
The F250 dash is pretty messed up and the wrong color, so I will plan on swapping the harness instead. Are radiator supports bolted in, or are they welded?
The F250 dash is pretty messed up and the wrong color, so I will plan on swapping the harness instead. Are radiator supports bolted in, or are they welded?
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Thanks for all the help guys. Sorry for confusion, my plans are putting the diesel engine into the Bronco, the F250 is the parts truck.
The F250 dash is pretty messed up and the wrong color, so I will plan on swapping the harness instead. Are radiator supports bolted in, or are they welded?
The F250 dash is pretty messed up and the wrong color, so I will plan on swapping the harness instead. Are radiator supports bolted in, or are they welded?
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Thanks for all the help guys. Sorry for confusion, my plans are putting the diesel engine into the Bronco, the F250 is the parts truck.
The F250 dash is pretty messed up and the wrong color, so I will plan on swapping the harness instead. Are radiator supports bolted in, or are they welded?
The F250 dash is pretty messed up and the wrong color, so I will plan on swapping the harness instead. Are radiator supports bolted in, or are they welded?
two large bolts on bottom, then the bolts up top for the fenders.
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The Bronco engine probably doesn't have a fuel pump, so you should just leave the fuel pump on the PSD engine when you swap it.
Is the donor a 4x4? I wonder what t-case is in the Bronco. Should be a bolt-up interchange anyway.
Double-check on the A/C compressor; the bracket mounting might be quite different on the Bronco engine. Everything else is part of the vehicle rather than part of the engine, so will be the same. You'll want to swap the vacuum manifold over from the diesel truck to the Bronco, and then just hook your brake booster and HVAC main feed to it.
Cluster will mount right up and connect, since you're using the truck's wiring harness. There's no computer involved; the PCM controls the tach, and the PSOM feeds a speed signal to the PCM, but again, that's all through the harness you'll be using.
Is the donor a 4x4? I wonder what t-case is in the Bronco. Should be a bolt-up interchange anyway.
Double-check on the A/C compressor; the bracket mounting might be quite different on the Bronco engine. Everything else is part of the vehicle rather than part of the engine, so will be the same. You'll want to swap the vacuum manifold over from the diesel truck to the Bronco, and then just hook your brake booster and HVAC main feed to it.
Cluster will mount right up and connect, since you're using the truck's wiring harness. There's no computer involved; the PCM controls the tach, and the PSOM feeds a speed signal to the PCM, but again, that's all through the harness you'll be using.
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The Bronco engine probably doesn't have a fuel pump, so you should just leave the fuel pump on the PSD engine when you swap it.
Is the donor a 4x4? I wonder what t-case is in the Bronco. Should be a bolt-up interchange anyway.
Double-check on the A/C compressor; the bracket mounting might be quite different on the Bronco engine. Everything else is part of the vehicle rather than part of the engine, so will be the same. You'll want to swap the vacuum manifold over from the diesel truck to the Bronco, and then just hook your brake booster and HVAC main feed to it.
Cluster will mount right up and connect, since you're using the truck's wiring harness. There's no computer involved; the PCM controls the tach, and the PSOM feeds a speed signal to the PCM, but again, that's all through the harness you'll be using.
Is the donor a 4x4? I wonder what t-case is in the Bronco. Should be a bolt-up interchange anyway.
Double-check on the A/C compressor; the bracket mounting might be quite different on the Bronco engine. Everything else is part of the vehicle rather than part of the engine, so will be the same. You'll want to swap the vacuum manifold over from the diesel truck to the Bronco, and then just hook your brake booster and HVAC main feed to it.
Cluster will mount right up and connect, since you're using the truck's wiring harness. There's no computer involved; the PCM controls the tach, and the PSOM feeds a speed signal to the PCM, but again, that's all through the harness you'll be using.
Different style pumps (as far as i know due to lubricity/dirt)
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I've read lots of threads over the years on diesel swaps, but don't recall everything I went over. I would like to have a more solid list of what works here so I can be more organized for my swap. I would like help with this list, which is for anything and everything between a gas setup to a diesel setup.
I have a 302 1996 Ford Bronco, and just got a 7.3 1995 F-250. I would like to know which parts from my Bronco will be reusable for a diesel engine.
Here's what I'm thinking,
Thing going to be changed (needed):
- 7.3 motor in place of 302
- Engine wiring harness and Cabin wiring harness
- Instrument cluster/bezel and computer
- All engine accessories (alternators/PS/etc)
- Engine Mounts
- ZF5 Transmission in place of M5OD
- ZF5 transmission mount in place of M5OD mount
- ZF5 clutch hydraulics
- Stiffer front coil springs
- Exhaust
Things I should change (highly recommended but not technically needed initially)
- Swapping out axles
- Swapping out 302 radiator for 7.3 radiator
Here's where I need help:
Interchangeable parts
- The obvious (fenders/doors/interior panels)
- Cabin power option wiring harnesses (windows/mirrors/doors/overhead?)
- Fuel lines?
- Gas tank?
- Fuel Pump?
- Brake booster setup?
- Pedal assembly (clutch/gas/brake)?
- AC System? (compressor, evap, condensor?)
Any advice on things that aren't compatible would be nice. It's obvious I need the engine, wiring harness, and transmission, but the other details can be the killer. A heads up on other important things like the fuel system, or engine/tranny mount fabrications would be very helpful! Thank you!
I have a 302 1996 Ford Bronco, and just got a 7.3 1995 F-250. I would like to know which parts from my Bronco will be reusable for a diesel engine.
Here's what I'm thinking,
Thing going to be changed (needed):
- 7.3 motor in place of 302
- Engine wiring harness and Cabin wiring harness
- Instrument cluster/bezel and computer
- All engine accessories (alternators/PS/etc)
- Engine Mounts
- ZF5 Transmission in place of M5OD
- ZF5 transmission mount in place of M5OD mount
- ZF5 clutch hydraulics
- Stiffer front coil springs
- Exhaust
Things I should change (highly recommended but not technically needed initially)
- Swapping out axles
- Swapping out 302 radiator for 7.3 radiator
Here's where I need help:
Interchangeable parts
- The obvious (fenders/doors/interior panels)
- Cabin power option wiring harnesses (windows/mirrors/doors/overhead?)
- Fuel lines?
- Gas tank?
- Fuel Pump?
- Brake booster setup?
- Pedal assembly (clutch/gas/brake)?
- AC System? (compressor, evap, condensor?)
Any advice on things that aren't compatible would be nice. It's obvious I need the engine, wiring harness, and transmission, but the other details can be the killer. A heads up on other important things like the fuel system, or engine/tranny mount fabrications would be very helpful! Thank you!
Replace brake booster and master cylinder, (biggber brakes on PSD vs bronco)
Pedal assembly will need to be changed, sorta. PSD go pedal is electronic.
You'll probably want to just swap the whole dash harness from the doner truck if its good, this will just save tons of work.
AC stuff is all the same.
Keep the gas tank, but you'll have to modify the innards by pulling the sending unit from the doner truck and doing the hutch mod.
This will show you how to rebuild it for the new tank as well as get a neat mod.
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And I assume the front shaft u-joint for the d44 is smaller then the d50. So you might need a conversion joint using the f250 drive shaft.