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Old 06-24-2016, 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by T diesel
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Same as my 13.
There are two different types of spring sets,
three and an overload and four and an overload on the superdutys.
I've asked many people to find out how to get the four spring when
ordering and no one seems to know. It has nothing to do with gvwr
or payload. I'd love to find out. Anyone?
Back when discussing spring perches was all the rage I stopped at the dealer to look at the 16's on the lot. Some were 250 and some 350. All had 4" blocks. None were camper certified. On the 350's some had 4 main leafs and some had 3. Some had snowplow package some had HD front package. None of the combinations were consistent and there was no indication on the window sticker. I asked the salesgirl and the sales manager and neither could explain the differences, in fact they did not know that there was a difference. I too ask what is trigger to add the extra leaf?
 
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Old 06-24-2016, 06:26 AM
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So the F250's with the 6.2 have the 2" blocks and those with the 6.7 the 4"?
 
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Old 06-24-2016, 06:48 AM
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No. MANY 250 gassers have a 4" block.
 
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Old 06-24-2016, 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Rasalas
Back when discussing spring perches was all the rage I stopped at the dealer to look at the 16's on the lot. Some were 250 and some 350. All had 4" blocks. None were camper certified. On the 350's some had 4 main leafs and some had 3. Some had snowplow package some had HD front package. None of the combinations were consistent and there was no indication on the window sticker. I asked the salesgirl and the sales manager and neither could explain the differences, in fact they did not know that there was a difference. I too ask what is trigger to add the extra leaf?
Also, some 250's have 3 some have 4. w/o the "camper package helper"
of course.
 
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Old 06-24-2016, 06:59 AM
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Also, some 250's have 3 some have 4. w/o the "camper package helper"
of course.
See post #74 on the previous page. He has a 16 F250 with 2" blocks
 
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Old 06-24-2016, 08:49 AM
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Ford Trucks,
Please provide pictures of the new design Twin I beam
I am curious about how it has evolved. Standard suspension for 30 years, then gone, now back. What is the game plan here?
 
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Old 06-24-2016, 10:16 AM
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See post #74 on the previous page. He has a 16 F250 with 2" blocks
I know.
There is no difference regarding engine type.
 
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Old 06-24-2016, 10:18 AM
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I asked the Ford engineer if the leaf spring set up was the same in "17"
and he answered more or less yes.

Are the rear leaf springs different?
We have optimized/enhanced several components of the suspension/chassis. While the leaf springs are carryover length and width, Rear Gross Axle Weight Ratings (GAWR)/Pad Ratings have been increased for many configurations. We upgraded the front eye bushing with a larger bolt and metal outer can and upgraded the front clip from an open to closed design.
 
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Old 07-01-2016, 08:54 AM
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I steal wait for a answer from the Ford engineer why on 2017 4x2 ford don't install the 5th wheel package.
 
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With 2.5" hitches on the market already rated for 20K+ what was the engineering reason to move up to the 3"? is Ford releasing that much higher conventional tow rating? Is there information on which trucks will get the 3" hitch receivers?
 
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With 2.5" hitches on the market already rated for 20K+ what was the engineering reason to move up to the 3"? is Ford releasing that much higher conventional tow rating? Is there information on which trucks will get the 3" hitch receivers?
2012 F450 drw with 3' receiver in back and I hate it! You have to get an adapter,, available anywhere, to run most hitches, there are a few 3" available but very costly esp. if you already have the 2 1/2". The adapter allows just that much more "slop" and "rattle" The pinhole in the adapter is off set, I run with the longer end out the back to support the hitch.

Ok for the Ford tech, great answers, my 2012 F450 DRW 6.7L has about 350,000 miles, on its 3rd turbo, right now getting injectors replaced. I pull heavy and constant it my business. Better brakes would be a blessing. How will a gooseneck hitch for a 2016 C frame fit a 2017 box frame? Whats the HP/Torque of the 2017 6.7 diesel? My 2012 has more stock HP than I had in my 2008 6.0 with upgrades and programmer. For the power train guys, all diesel trucks should be able to run 65 mpg @ 1800 rpm (the diesel sweet spot) Mine does not due to the gears, its a diesel HOG!
 
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Old 07-11-2016, 04:37 PM
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my heavy pulls









these can get REAL heavy




I hate bumper pulls




53 ft car hauler from OKC to Long Island NY




Yeah, sometimes I pull my own trailer or stuff




Set of doubles from KS to AZ




and some days it just plain easy,
 
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I think there are many of us that would like to understand why the 2017 SRW F350, with its upgraded frame, axles, brakes, etc. has the same GVWR of 11,500 as the 2016. It is especially surprising given that Ram 3500 SRW has dominated the F350 SRW for years with its 12,300 GVWR. Can I really put 800# more on the Ram wheels than the new Ford???
 
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Still No Answer

Originally Posted by PWRBYIH
What are the internal dimensions of the 2017 Super Duty. If they are the same as the 2016 F150 three across in the front is going to be tight.
trucks are in production and still no answer, what are the interior shoulder and hip width dimensions?? Are they less than a 2016 F250?
 
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Old 07-20-2016, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by PWRBYIH
trucks are in production and still no answer, what are the interior shoulder and hip width dimensions?? Are they less than a 2016 F250?
If its the same cab as the F150 then look at those specs
 


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