6.0 Starts then won't start after it's warm.
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6.0 Starts then won't start after it's warm.
Left on hunting trip last Thurs. Blew tire on trailer 6 miles from home. Shut off truck. Went to restart, cranks only. No codes. Towed home.
Thought it might be a fuel filter problem. Had just changed oil/filter and fuel filters prior to trip. Checked filters, upper bowl was low. Turned key to on and bowl filled up. Noticed filter wasn't snapped in lid. Also checked lower filter.
Drove it to work this am.
Turned off truck and tried to restart to check. NO START-Cranks fine!!!
Need advice asap. Please. Thanx in advance.
Temps in 50* last Thurs morning.
60* this am.
Normal operating temps per Scangage
Thought it might be a fuel filter problem. Had just changed oil/filter and fuel filters prior to trip. Checked filters, upper bowl was low. Turned key to on and bowl filled up. Noticed filter wasn't snapped in lid. Also checked lower filter.
Drove it to work this am.
Turned off truck and tried to restart to check. NO START-Cranks fine!!!
Need advice asap. Please. Thanx in advance.
Temps in 50* last Thurs morning.
60* this am.
Normal operating temps per Scangage
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Truck starts easily after it's cooled down?
As Randy mentioned some numbers would be helpful.
During cranking, after start up and warmed up, then again attempting a hot start.
Sounds like a HPO leak initially...........starts up after she has sat for a cool down.
Hot oil won't pressurize as easily....although it's not a given you have a leak on oil side. Might be ICP or IPR.
Will it light if you try to start hot and ICP unplugged?
As Randy mentioned some numbers would be helpful.
During cranking, after start up and warmed up, then again attempting a hot start.
Sounds like a HPO leak initially...........starts up after she has sat for a cool down.
Hot oil won't pressurize as easily....although it's not a given you have a leak on oil side. Might be ICP or IPR.
Will it light if you try to start hot and ICP unplugged?
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No STC /dummy plugs/standpipes to my knowledge. Bought 5.4 yrs ago with 49K
Aircraft Mechanic by trade-Not diesel mechanic but I have been as far as oil cooler in this engine. Feel very capable of doing the work myself.
How do I call up ICP, ICPV and IPR%?
Suspecting HPOP and who to buy from? How to get to it?
Not stranded, my daily driver is a Jeep.
Thanx again!!
Aircraft Mechanic by trade-Not diesel mechanic but I have been as far as oil cooler in this engine. Feel very capable of doing the work myself.
How do I call up ICP, ICPV and IPR%?
Suspecting HPOP and who to buy from? How to get to it?
Not stranded, my daily driver is a Jeep.
Thanx again!!
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your HPOP is the good one, rarely has issues. But that year had issues with STC fitting, dummy plugs and standpipes.
I'd do an air test (see tech folder) to isolate the issue, then watch a couple you tube videos to see how to make the repair. Dummy plug in the passenger side is usually an issue as is the failed STC fitting. Diesel Tech Ron on you tube has some great videos on air test and these repairs... walks you through the whole thing.
Post up the ICP and IPR readings. Go to the Scan Gauge web site and read how to program X-Gauges for 6.0, or again, watch Ron on you tube, he goes thru that as well.
Cold oil is easier to make pressure, once warmed up, leaks become gushers and why is starts when cold but not hot.
I'd do an air test (see tech folder) to isolate the issue, then watch a couple you tube videos to see how to make the repair. Dummy plug in the passenger side is usually an issue as is the failed STC fitting. Diesel Tech Ron on you tube has some great videos on air test and these repairs... walks you through the whole thing.
Post up the ICP and IPR readings. Go to the Scan Gauge web site and read how to program X-Gauges for 6.0, or again, watch Ron on you tube, he goes thru that as well.
Cold oil is easier to make pressure, once warmed up, leaks become gushers and why is starts when cold but not hot.
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Finally an update. Loaded ICP IPR and SYC into scangage.
Readings as follows: First start of day.
CODE ____Cranking_______ Idle________ Warmed up _________After 12 mile________ Cranking No start
IPC _______ 473_________ 873 __________ 1051 ______________ 586 _________________288
IPR_______ 14.8 _________27.7 ___________32.4 ______________22.2 _________________84.7
SYC________ 0___________ 1 _______________1________________ 1___________________ 1
Have dummy plugs and stand pipes in hand( as in new ones)
Did not locate a code for ICPV
Readings as follows: First start of day.
CODE ____Cranking_______ Idle________ Warmed up _________After 12 mile________ Cranking No start
IPC _______ 473_________ 873 __________ 1051 ______________ 586 _________________288
IPR_______ 14.8 _________27.7 ___________32.4 ______________22.2 _________________84.7
SYC________ 0___________ 1 _______________1________________ 1___________________ 1
Have dummy plugs and stand pipes in hand( as in new ones)
Did not locate a code for ICPV
Last edited by phantomphixer; 02-17-2016 at 06:37 PM. Reason: Spacing on list. Wont line up. Added underline
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Going in after Dummy plugs and Standpipes fri night. Have STC fitting and HPOP "O" rings and gasket on the way. Since that's basically 2 different areas to work on, I'll do the DP-SP first- If that solves it, I'll have the STC fitting in hand an a month or so later, pull the turbo and dive into the "Valley of the Oil". Probably should order updated turbo drain line too.
Let me know if I should change anything else in the Valley.
Things are gonna get a little dirty Friday night.
FYI did see 3400 IPC while road trip testing with throttle almost to the floor.
Let me know if I should change anything else in the Valley.
Things are gonna get a little dirty Friday night.
FYI did see 3400 IPC while road trip testing with throttle almost to the floor.