Has anyone drilled their CAC yet?
#1
Has anyone drilled their CAC yet?
I ran into a pretty long debate on another forum that discusses this, probably in way more detail than is needed.
It seems that Ford has addressed this on the 15/16 model trucks. I wanted to get your thoughts on this. The video is crazy as hell!
I haven't drilled mine and I've never noticed a stumbling issue at anytime of year. If I did have an issue, would it be obvious to me?
Thoughts, discussion?
#2
Oh, don't tell me you read the whole thread at F150forum? That's just masochistic.
Yes, I think it would. I had it happen once and the truck ran so poorly I pulled over to the shoulder on the freeway, and then it sorted it self and I drove on. I normally drive mixed city/highway and hammer throttle probably on a daily basis. Problem never occurred for years. Then one day I drove on cruise control for 3.5 hours in weather that was mid-30's and very damp. Boom... there it was. I never did drill the hole, though. I guess one incident in 4 years isn't enough to trip my trigger.
I did install an oil catch can. When I removed my stock intercooler there was no water inside but there was a puddle of oil. Water collection is temporary, it will eventually evaporate and clear out. Oil never goes away and has to be controlled at the source.
Worse yet is the possible loss of catalytic converter. Modern cats run so hot that unburned fuel from a misfire can light up inside the cat and may cause damage that will fail the cat in the future. Is this a good enough reason to drill the CAC? You'll have to decide for yourself. Just keep in mind the hole mod costs $0.
Yes, I think it would. I had it happen once and the truck ran so poorly I pulled over to the shoulder on the freeway, and then it sorted it self and I drove on. I normally drive mixed city/highway and hammer throttle probably on a daily basis. Problem never occurred for years. Then one day I drove on cruise control for 3.5 hours in weather that was mid-30's and very damp. Boom... there it was. I never did drill the hole, though. I guess one incident in 4 years isn't enough to trip my trigger.
I did install an oil catch can. When I removed my stock intercooler there was no water inside but there was a puddle of oil. Water collection is temporary, it will eventually evaporate and clear out. Oil never goes away and has to be controlled at the source.
Worse yet is the possible loss of catalytic converter. Modern cats run so hot that unburned fuel from a misfire can light up inside the cat and may cause damage that will fail the cat in the future. Is this a good enough reason to drill the CAC? You'll have to decide for yourself. Just keep in mind the hole mod costs $0.
#3
Oh, don't tell me you read the whole thread at F150forum? That's just masochistic.
Yes, I think it would. I had it happen once and the truck ran so poorly I pulled over to the shoulder on the freeway, and then it sorted it self and I drove on. I normally drive mixed city/highway and hammer throttle probably on a daily basis. Problem never occurred for years. Then one day I drove on cruise control for 3.5 hours in weather that was mid-30's and very damp. Boom... there it was. I never did drill the hole, though. I guess one incident in 4 years isn't enough to trip my trigger.
I did install an oil catch can. When I removed my stock intercooler there was no water inside but there was a puddle of oil. Water collection is temporary, it will eventually evaporate and clear out. Oil never goes away and has to be controlled at the source.
Worse yet is the possible loss of catalytic converter. Modern cats run so hot that unburned fuel from a misfire can light up inside the cat and may cause damage that will fail the cat in the future. Is this a good enough reason to drill the CAC? You'll have to decide for yourself. Just keep in mind the hole mod costs $0.
Yes, I think it would. I had it happen once and the truck ran so poorly I pulled over to the shoulder on the freeway, and then it sorted it self and I drove on. I normally drive mixed city/highway and hammer throttle probably on a daily basis. Problem never occurred for years. Then one day I drove on cruise control for 3.5 hours in weather that was mid-30's and very damp. Boom... there it was. I never did drill the hole, though. I guess one incident in 4 years isn't enough to trip my trigger.
I did install an oil catch can. When I removed my stock intercooler there was no water inside but there was a puddle of oil. Water collection is temporary, it will eventually evaporate and clear out. Oil never goes away and has to be controlled at the source.
Worse yet is the possible loss of catalytic converter. Modern cats run so hot that unburned fuel from a misfire can light up inside the cat and may cause damage that will fail the cat in the future. Is this a good enough reason to drill the CAC? You'll have to decide for yourself. Just keep in mind the hole mod costs $0.
Agreed on the hole costing $0 and thanks for the feedback.
#7
The oil gets introduced back into the system because the Govt. does not want the oil vapors released to the atmosphere.
The idea is to recirculate them back into the engine and burn them off.
They are put back into the airflow prior to the cooler.
It would see to me a bigger issue would be the oil vapors coating the inside of the CAC. That never seems to come up.
If BB doesn't want the oil vapors released. I am fairly certain they would frown on the dumping of oily water.
That video is a little over the top... just sayin.
There is a picture in the "Ecoboost over 100k" thread that I think would be closer to the norm.
BTW, oil in a CAC was an issue with the 7.3 also. Never heard of any failures because of it.
The idea is to recirculate them back into the engine and burn them off.
They are put back into the airflow prior to the cooler.
It would see to me a bigger issue would be the oil vapors coating the inside of the CAC. That never seems to come up.
If BB doesn't want the oil vapors released. I am fairly certain they would frown on the dumping of oily water.
That video is a little over the top... just sayin.
There is a picture in the "Ecoboost over 100k" thread that I think would be closer to the norm.
BTW, oil in a CAC was an issue with the 7.3 also. Never heard of any failures because of it.
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#8
Drilled mine at 38,000 miles and I'm glad I did. My truck spit fluid for 7-10 days consistently. I can tell a bit of a difference near WOT as the truck now just pulls whereas previously it would feel like it was strangling itself or holding back a bit. I'm sure that even a bit of excess vapor would lead to this.
My truck was at the dealer two weeks later for an inspection and they made no mention of it.
My truck was at the dealer two weeks later for an inspection and they made no mention of it.
#9
Drilled mine at 38,000 miles and I'm glad I did. My truck spit fluid for 7-10 days consistently. I can tell a bit of a difference near WOT as the truck now just pulls whereas previously it would feel like it was strangling itself or holding back a bit. I'm sure that even a bit of excess vapor would lead to this.
My truck was at the dealer two weeks later for an inspection and they made no mention of it.
My truck was at the dealer two weeks later for an inspection and they made no mention of it.
#10
Yes sir. 1/16" on the lowest spot on the front side of the driver's side. Drill the front side because the CAC is leaning forward just a bit. It helps if you unbolt the air dam to aide the drill's positioning. Let the drill do the work. Grease the crap out of the bit so it'll catch the pieces. The wall of the CAC is not very thick.
#11
Tom brought up a good point about the drilled hole being a source of unfiltered air entering the system under no boost and vacuum conditions.
Perhaps there is a work around for that, bit with that in mind, I don't think id drill the hole unless I had a consistent problem.
I wonder if a pet-**** type drain would be better?
Or better yet, an electric valve that closes in use but opens to let it drain all night?
Perhaps there is a work around for that, bit with that in mind, I don't think id drill the hole unless I had a consistent problem.
I wonder if a pet-**** type drain would be better?
Or better yet, an electric valve that closes in use but opens to let it drain all night?
#15
If a tiny loss of boost is possible then a tiny amount of vacuum could exist.
Looking at the video that I posted, even at idle the CAC was dripping water. This guy must live in an extremely humid environment for that much moisture to drain.
It's wicked humid here in Va and I haven't had any issues to date. I'm simply exploring a preventative measure. I'm sure that if Ford did something like this, they would add yet another electric valve that would cycle regularly and be subject to failure.
Why couldn't a fella drill the hole and thread a screw with the intent of opening the hole every oil change, or monthly or some other reasonable time frame?
Looking at the video that I posted, even at idle the CAC was dripping water. This guy must live in an extremely humid environment for that much moisture to drain.
It's wicked humid here in Va and I haven't had any issues to date. I'm simply exploring a preventative measure. I'm sure that if Ford did something like this, they would add yet another electric valve that would cycle regularly and be subject to failure.
Why couldn't a fella drill the hole and thread a screw with the intent of opening the hole every oil change, or monthly or some other reasonable time frame?