Seeking Help with a Smoke Issue
#31
A couple of years ago, I put a small bottle of ZDDP in my oil. The exhaust smell was terrible and as you described-eye burning. It smoked a little, mostly cold, and you could smell it inside a car a couple vehicles behind it at a stoplight. It lingered a little into the next oil change even.
#32
You may not have the same issue, but it's worth checking.
The truck showed no faults. Every thing looked good and I even pulled the turbo since looking in the down pipe showed a hint, but not what should have been expected considering the smoke I was generating. It wasn't just at starting, which was very light, but after driving being at a stop sign or light would be embarrassing.
AE showed nothing due to compensated control. IDS hot both comp'd and uncomp'd showed minimal variation. It wasn't until I did dead cold that number 7 showed it wasn't contributing as much. And it was a moderate drop. I changed it out not really sure that was the true problem child. But as soon as it was changed all trace of smoke stopped.
I've had a little start up smoke this winter and a quick IDS check indicated two injectors, #3 and #5 are down a little, but I need an opportunity to do proper cold and hot checks to investigate this more.
The truck showed no faults. Every thing looked good and I even pulled the turbo since looking in the down pipe showed a hint, but not what should have been expected considering the smoke I was generating. It wasn't just at starting, which was very light, but after driving being at a stop sign or light would be embarrassing.
AE showed nothing due to compensated control. IDS hot both comp'd and uncomp'd showed minimal variation. It wasn't until I did dead cold that number 7 showed it wasn't contributing as much. And it was a moderate drop. I changed it out not really sure that was the true problem child. But as soon as it was changed all trace of smoke stopped.
I've had a little start up smoke this winter and a quick IDS check indicated two injectors, #3 and #5 are down a little, but I need an opportunity to do proper cold and hot checks to investigate this more.
Took it for a ride yesterday, with about 1/2 ton of wood in the back. It starts fine, then as its warming up, it emits a very light haze.. A clearish to very light color.. As I accelerate it turns to a blueish color. And once I accelerate hard or go up any kind of hill, it's rolling blue.....
Come to a stop, it lightens up, still blue and then starts to lose color, but never completely stops.
Then repeats itself as you continue driving....
Do you think I could figure this out using AE, or do I have to take it to someone with IDS???
#33
Both engines smoking is possible but seems unlikely. I was thinking on where oil could have stayed on the truck. Sounds like you've been through the cold side air stuff and the exhaust also. I agree an injector sounds likely but you need some diag equipment to narrow down which one (s). Fuel or oil contamination is an outside posibility.
A couple of years ago, I put a small bottle of ZDDP in my oil. The exhaust smell was terrible and as you described-eye burning. It smoked a little, mostly cold, and you could smell it inside a car a couple vehicles behind it at a stoplight. It lingered a little into the next oil change even.
A couple of years ago, I put a small bottle of ZDDP in my oil. The exhaust smell was terrible and as you described-eye burning. It smoked a little, mostly cold, and you could smell it inside a car a couple vehicles behind it at a stoplight. It lingered a little into the next oil change even.
Thanks for getting back to me on this.... As far as diag equipment, do u have anything in mind I could check with AE...
I made a chart, of my truck and the non smoking one. All 500 some pid's that AE can see. And compared them side by side. Some minor differences. But nothing that really jumped out.... Any thoughts?
For whatever reason, my smoke is normal cold and gets worse as she heats up....
#34
Just contribution/balance. I've read AE has that function and works well at idle but has issues displaying the trace as RPM's increase though. Fords IDS is the best tool for that. Does the engine have excessive blow by? You would be checking for air/smoke coming out of the oil fill cap with engine running and warm. Basic rule of thumb, if you flip the cap over and set it on top of the fill pipe it shouldn't be blown off.
#35
I haven't flipped the cap over and checked. Will try that tomorrow. But I did reroute the ccv, to no avail...
Any idea what the fuel pulse width reading is supposed to be? It's one of the readings I have a discrepancy on between the two trucks.
Also, every so often my IAT2 reading will be lower than my IAT reading...
Also discrepancy in the Mass fuel desired readings
And volume fuel desired
I realize it's two different trucks, but both 04s. One smokes and one doesn't....
Any idea what the fuel pulse width reading is supposed to be? It's one of the readings I have a discrepancy on between the two trucks.
Also, every so often my IAT2 reading will be lower than my IAT reading...
Also discrepancy in the Mass fuel desired readings
And volume fuel desired
I realize it's two different trucks, but both 04s. One smokes and one doesn't....
#36
#38
I haven't flipped the cap over and checked. Will try that tomorrow. But I did reroute the ccv, to no avail...
Any idea what the fuel pulse width reading is supposed to be? It's one of the readings I have a discrepancy on between the two trucks.
Also, every so often my IAT2 reading will be lower than my IAT reading...
Also discrepancy in the Mass fuel desired readings
And volume fuel desired
I realize it's two different trucks, but both 04s. One smokes and one doesn't....
Any idea what the fuel pulse width reading is supposed to be? It's one of the readings I have a discrepancy on between the two trucks.
Also, every so often my IAT2 reading will be lower than my IAT reading...
Also discrepancy in the Mass fuel desired readings
And volume fuel desired
I realize it's two different trucks, but both 04s. One smokes and one doesn't....
With factory software, the range is 400us (microseconds) to 5.8ms (milliseconds). It's common to see the full pulse of 5.8ms on a cold start and around 800us at warm idle. If I remember correctly, there is only one reading, with the tools I have I cant see each individual injector.
#39
I've just been over this on my own truck so I have the notes right here
With factory software, the range is 400us (microseconds) to 5.8ms (milliseconds). It's common to see the full pulse of 5.8ms on a cold start and around 800us at warm idle. If I remember correctly, there is only one reading, with the tools I have I cant see each individual injector.
With factory software, the range is 400us (microseconds) to 5.8ms (milliseconds). It's common to see the full pulse of 5.8ms on a cold start and around 800us at warm idle. If I remember correctly, there is only one reading, with the tools I have I cant see each individual injector.
Again, both are 2004s
#40
#41
And isn't that the other way around, blue for turbo and white for injector?
#45
That's an awesome video. I hope everything turned out ok with that truck...
Mine is nothing like that, however. At idle you can barely see it, no dtc's. I don't have IDS, but AE power balance looks normal. I realize there is a compensation factor.
I have had the injectors out, since they were installed. I re-ringed them and wanted to make sure no xtra crush washers left in the cups.
Do you have any thoughts on my pulse width readings? Or any of the other readings that seem to be off
Mine is nothing like that, however. At idle you can barely see it, no dtc's. I don't have IDS, but AE power balance looks normal. I realize there is a compensation factor.
I have had the injectors out, since they were installed. I re-ringed them and wanted to make sure no xtra crush washers left in the cups.
Do you have any thoughts on my pulse width readings? Or any of the other readings that seem to be off