My questions is, how long does the engine have to sit at idle before the system cycles? Can the idle time be adjusted to meet ones needs?

In a rolling traffic snarl, it makes no sense for the engine to shut down and then restart every 10-15 seconds.

How will this system affect first responders? Fire/EMS and Police cruisers can't very well use a vehicle that can't idle for long periods.

Breaking it down into a cost savings: The system is predicted to increase MPG's by 5%.

Without the system:

100,000 miles driven at 20 MPG's is 5000 gallons of gas.

With the system:

100,000 miles driven at 21 MPG's (5% increase) is 4762 gallons used. The savings is 238 gallons of fuel over 100,000 miles.

238 gallons at $2.00 p/g = $476.

That doesn't cover much of a repair bill these days. Of course, if the price of fuel spikes again, the savings is more.

For now, I'm OK with an idling engine.

 

Exactly, it's just hoopla for the EPA.

I can certainly see shutting down the engine for a long freight train, traffic is at a standstill on the highway etc, but shutting down for a short stoplight is unnecasarry

Josh

 

Yep, just hoopla for the EnviroNazi's.

I'm sure you can turn that crap off with a programmer.

 

This feature might make me stick with the 5.0 when I get my new truck later this summer if I end up with a 2017.

 

If the truck sees a trailer then the start/stop is disabled, so theoretically you just have to have the truck think it's towing a trailer.

Maybe this will work?

 

I find myself turning it off. I tend to have a light foot on the brake and the dang stop/start starts when I don't want it to. For this system to function as designed, one needs to keep their foot pretty hard on the brake. I can't seem to train myself to do this. It's annoying for me. I'd like to have the option to turn it off via the config menu and not hit the dang dash button every time I start the truck...

This tech is only to please the enviro ****'s and their damnable EPA manifesto. It is NOT for me and my pleasure, which is what vehicles are supposed to be for...I HATE THE FRIGGIN' EPA.....DIE EPA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Does the lubrication system keep the turbo bearings happy (keep them lubricated and cool) after the engine is off until the impeller spins down?

 

The 2.7 does....


Josh

 

When I had a Mustang GT I had to turn off the traction control every single time I started the car. It really wasn't that annoying. But then again, we live in a world were turning on your headlights is too much of a challenge for many folks without an "Auto" feature.

Like it or not, there isn't anything "manual" on the new vehicles (Ford or otherwise). Sure you can still find a manual transmission on some cars, and you can get crank windows, but otherwise, the mechanical connection many "old timers" (and those old at heart) is gone and gone forever. Brakes may be the last holdout for safety, but heck, we don't even get emergency brakes on many vehicles (including several F150s). We can blame the EPA, but we can also blame all of you that complain that your 3.5 EB with 3.73 doesn't get the posted "EPA" figures when you're going 70+ It's the nature of the beast. I never understand why people ask what the fuel economy is of any car, and especially a truck. I've never been one to care myself. If I like the car or truck, I buy it. Paying for fuel is no different than some people buying new clothing all the time, or more expensive beer. I'm a car guy so vehicles are my enjoyment. Going from my F150 (351 for 11 mpg) to my Fiesta (around 30 mpg) saves me maybe $25 a week. I'm far from rich, but that much doesn't matter to me.

 

One thing I have discovered, my 2.7 does not like head winds when it comes to fuel economy. It's on the boost quite a bit more. Still, it gets better mileage than my Aerostar and that's cool with me...

 

Yes, wind resistance is a massive factor in highway fuel economy. We all know that going 75 instead of 65 gives us a big penalty, so 65 with a 10 mph head wind works out the same, and 75 with a head wind is obviously worse!

 

Wind... I used to ride a Honda 250 Rebel and on the highway I was WOT to stay with traffic. If I could creep in behind a tractor trailer and stay in the drag I could practically idle and maintain speed. Dangerous, stupid, and I don't suggest it at all (I was younger), but boy did it teach me about wind resistance!

 

I know where you are coming from, I had a Honda CB 360, almost the same deal. The truck is much nicer.