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#46
01-24-2016, 01:17 PM
Just to clear things up a bit, the grid heaters on a Cummins are for emissions control only. Non highway applications either don't have any start assist at all, or have ether injection in cold weather applications, same as a good ol DT 466...
The trick to getting my Dodge to start at 30 below is you forget to plug it in is unplug the grids so there is enough battery to spin it over, and you only have one shot then, just a single G31 in it...
The rules of using ether are simple. Never spray if the engine isn't cranking. Use only enough to make it catch after you start spraying. Spray into the air stream going into the filter, never directly into the intake.
It is a simple science, but many get it very wrong.
The trick to getting my Dodge to start at 30 below is you forget to plug it in is unplug the grids so there is enough battery to spin it over, and you only have one shot then, just a single G31 in it...
The rules of using ether are simple. Never spray if the engine isn't cranking. Use only enough to make it catch after you start spraying. Spray into the air stream going into the filter, never directly into the intake.
It is a simple science, but many get it very wrong.
#47
01-24-2016, 07:56 PM
nope, not true. the ZD-9 was deposited in Rudolph's rear end. then when one of the other reindeer would sing "light my fire" one of the elves would hit the glow plug button in the sled and wake his butt up!!
it was horrible. it was colder than a witch's left.....you know what.
the reindeer just would not get started, and the damn temp hire elves decided it would be a good idea to use ether to "fire them up".
but they used too much, and put the reindeer to sleep. then the nightmares started.
reindeer flopping all over the place, elves freaking out and running all over the place.
then the reindeer and elves got really scared when they started bumping into each other and lost bowel control.
before we could get everyone back under control, there was reindeer and elf excrement everywhere.
the maintenance men still refuse to go into the barn.
it was horrible. it was colder than a witch's left.....you know what.
the reindeer just would not get started, and the damn temp hire elves decided it would be a good idea to use ether to "fire them up".
but they used too much, and put the reindeer to sleep. then the nightmares started.
reindeer flopping all over the place, elves freaking out and running all over the place.
then the reindeer and elves got really scared when they started bumping into each other and lost bowel control.
before we could get everyone back under control, there was reindeer and elf excrement everywhere.
the maintenance men still refuse to go into the barn.
Smart man, he doesn't pay attention to mainstream garbage on film at all, Krampus is an old German legendary Reindeer monster who is supposed to be like the alter ego of Santa who hauls bad children to hell.
Legend has it one of the Reindeer and I believe it was Vixen would not get out of bed to pull the sled so Santa stuck a hair dryer up it's a$$ then injected a shot of ether and Kaablewie Krampus was born.
It was a 2015 movie for XMAS on the big screen.
#48
01-25-2016, 08:14 AM
Just to clear things up a bit, the grid heaters on a Cummins are for emissions control only. Non highway applications either don't have any start assist at all, or have ether injection in cold weather applications, same as a good ol DT 466...
The trick to getting my Dodge to start at 30 below is you forget to plug it in is unplug the grids so there is enough battery to spin it over, and you only have one shot then, just a single G31 in it...
The rules of using ether are simple. Never spray if the engine isn't cranking. Use only enough to make it catch after you start spraying. Spray into the air stream going into the filter, never directly into the intake.
It is a simple science, but many get it very wrong.
The trick to getting my Dodge to start at 30 below is you forget to plug it in is unplug the grids so there is enough battery to spin it over, and you only have one shot then, just a single G31 in it...
The rules of using ether are simple. Never spray if the engine isn't cranking. Use only enough to make it catch after you start spraying. Spray into the air stream going into the filter, never directly into the intake.
It is a simple science, but many get it very wrong.
Been doing it for years, and no one seems to listen.
Personally, I will continue to use it as NECESSARY, and
have not broken/damaged an engine in 40 years.
#49
01-25-2016, 04:22 PM
The rules of using ether are simple. Never spray if the engine isn't cranking. Use only enough to make it catch after you start spraying. Spray into the air stream going into the filter, never directly into the intake.
It is a simple science, but many get it very wrong.
It is a simple science, but many get it very wrong.
If you have glow plugs make sure theyre disconnected. IMHO, that is the only way you are going to hurt something.
#50
01-26-2016, 12:05 PM
The rules of using ether are simple. Never spray if the engine isn't cranking. Use only enough to make it catch after you start spraying. Spray into the air stream going into the filter, never directly into the intake.
It is a simple science, but many get it very wrong.
It is a simple science, but many get it very wrong.
Personally any time I spray into the intake itself it's prone to pre-detonation. OR its such a small spray that it doesn't help much. (I exclusively use ether to re-prime from air intrusion to help save batteries and speed up the process)
Spray into the cold air intake, no issues at all. Into the intake throat itself, pinging and scary-ness.
#51
01-26-2016, 12:15 PM
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That thing was a pain to start in the winter...
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yup, sure can. there is a thread in another forum about what happens when you shoot ether into the intake. he was in a hurry to fire it because flood waters were rising. the engine popped back and blew the airbox into a zillion little pieces.
i tried looking for it to show pics of the carnage but can't remember where i saw it
i tried looking for it to show pics of the carnage but can't remember where i saw it
#56
01-28-2016, 11:31 AM
Over in the PSD section here on FTE - https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...low-plugs.html . But it's not a backfire. It's the GP itself igniting the starting fluid.
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#58
01-28-2016, 11:57 AM
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My understanding was indirect motors tended to need either plugs or ether...that grid heaters were not effective enough for really cold cold starts.
Roy
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01-28-2016, 02:21 PM
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01-28-2016, 03:17 PM