Thats funny about not caring about the 1 to 1.5 loss of MPG with the 4.30"s. I hear all the time about guys wanting to add fuel tanks to there trucks so they don't have to stop for fuel all the time. Going with that low of gear makes no sense if you don't use it to pull anything. 3.73's work just fine around town and since you don't pull around tractors or heavy equipment than you are wasting money on fuel. You will like the performance form the 3.7's also. Spinning the tires is easy even with 3.31's like I have in my deisel. By7 the way. If you have a 26 gallon tank than you lose 26 to 39 miles per tank times how many miles you drive per year. It's almost liker pennies. Put them in a jar and they add up to dollars. Just saying

 

Smoking, drinking or any other misc item we spend in life could be a waste of money. Like spending the saved pennies, just saying.

 

just to throw some numbers out there. If you drive 15k a year at 13.5mpg(4.30)compared to 15mpg(3.73) with gas around $2/gallon you'll save like $220/year with the 3.73 gears. If you can't afford to spend an extra $200/year on gas by opting for the 4.30 gears then maybe a SD truck isn't for you. I have zero regrets with the 4.30 gears.

 

Haven't looked at any new trucks in a while (not going to buy one so why look), but a few years back you could get a Ford, Chevy or Dodge with 4.10-4.11 gears. I do understand that a higher rpm gas engine would need a lower gear than a diesel for towing, and that the newer auto trans has a higher OD than my old zf6, but it just sounds like a pretty low gear for all around use.

 

apples and oranges..

in high school my 1965 Impala SS 409, 4 speed had 4:11 gears from the factory.
never towed a thing with it.. or wanted to.

Dragway 42 or Thompson Drag Raceway....

 

That's old information, true until 2011. There are no 4.11 or 4.10 gears that go into modern Super Duties. The options are 3.73 or 4.30.

 

I take exception to that rule. I lose probably 3 mpg now instead of around 1 mpg because I tend to hop on the pedal more now. Besides wasting money is what life is all about. Gotta spend it or the DW or government will take it.

 

It does give you a higher GCWR as well. I think you go from 19000 lbs to 22000 lbs with 3.73 and 4.30 respectively which does you give some more leeway in the towing department. Even unloaded though on the highway I find more enjoyable. Far less shifting on hills with 4.30 as compared to 3.73.

 

If you order you lock in current rebates, you don't have to take del by the 4th. And, if the rebates go up, you can opt for the new better ones.

As for requiring the down payment to bring the truck in, that's pretty reasonable. We lose a good chunk of money on dealer trades, why would we want an unusual truck if you're not willing to buy it?

 

Frantz, Thanks for the info.


I am unfamiliar with the dealer trade specifics, how do you loose money on dealer trades? I thought you just swapped similar vehicles or combinations of vehicles with equal MSRP's.

 

Somebody is gonna get it! Cause you cant take it with you!! What's the point of having boat loads of money when you die? That just means I did not enjoy life as much as I could have.

 

It goes two-ways, the dealer they are trading with will want a trade they know they can sell, then your dealer must know they will sell you the SD with the 4.30 gears that they traded for. 4.30 geared SD's are hard to find at any Dealer and sometimes they sell quick but also the 4.30 geared SD may sit on their lot for a long time, where the 3.73's won't. So if your Dealer trades to get you the 4.30 geared SD, they may or will require a non-refundable deposit, at least that is what they do around here.

The Deposit amount is based on what vehicle you are wanting them to trade for.
Depending on the Trade, the Dealers here require a purchase agreement w/deposit.
Plus, your dealer may charge you for transporting cost depending on the location of the other dealer.
Check autotrader on line, good source for looking for a 4.30 geared SD, as you can do a nationwide search.
I just ordered mine, get it the way you want it. Well worth the wait for it to arrive.

 

Gentlemen,


Thanks for the info.

 

Sweet! Betcha once you saw it, it was worth the wait!
Congrats!
RWNJ

 

My gasser F250 CC came with a 35 gallon fuel tank. And you can break the tires lose with 3.31 gears probably because the truck make 800 or more tq.