Notices
1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks 1987 - 1996 Ford F-150, F-250, F-350 and larger pickups - including the 1997 heavy-duty F250/F350+ trucks
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

E4OD shift problems '97 F250 HD

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #1  
Old 11-28-2015, 07:23 PM
Secret Squirrel 53's Avatar
Secret Squirrel 53
Secret Squirrel 53 is offline
New User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 12
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
E4OD shift problems '97 F250 HD

Hello Ford Truck enthusiasts. I am very happy to finally be a member of your site. I've read your threads on Ford Truck issues and have always found them useful. I have a new problem that I need help with. I have a '97 F250 HD with 5.8 and E40D 4x4. After I put the truck in drive and accelerate, the truck goes back & forth between 1000-2000 rpms continuously until 35 mph, then it shifts into high gear and will not downshift. After that it runs fine -- the overdrive goes on and off with the button. Fluid and filter were changed by a transmission shop. No codes on engine or transmission. Transmission shop says it is a "ground issue" -- possibly in the PCM. Have checked all grounds on frame and engine -- all are good. Please help. Thanks. Secret Squirrel 53
 
  #2  
Old 11-28-2015, 08:53 PM
subford's Avatar
subford
subford is offline
Fleet Owner
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Easton,Ks
Posts: 23,603
Likes: 0
Received 227 Likes on 177 Posts
The frame does not need to be grounded unless you are pulling a trailer but the body sure needs to be. The body ground is the ground for just about every thing on the truck. The engine ground is just for the starter, charging and spark.

That said what does your speedometer do all the time this is happening?

The body ground, note the small wires to the left coming out of the body ground point, that is the computer ground wires for pins 40 & 60.:


/
 
  #3  
Old 11-29-2015, 10:34 AM
Secret Squirrel 53's Avatar
Secret Squirrel 53
Secret Squirrel 53 is offline
New User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 12
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Subford

Thanks for your great info on my ground issues.I was never told about the two pin grounds until now.After six months of trying to fix problem have good help.Spedo works fine.Replaced speed sensor,tps, fluid and filter changed.Trany shop put truck on computer and it drove and shifted fine and hooked truck computer back up and original problem came back.Was told only it was a ground problem.Ill be checking and cleaning grounds shortly. Thanks
 
  #4  
Old 12-01-2015, 10:45 PM
Secret Squirrel 53's Avatar
Secret Squirrel 53
Secret Squirrel 53 is offline
New User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 12
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Newby needs help. Would like to know if a 1994 ECU would work in my 1997 truck? Both trucks are automatic .The 1994 has a 302 and the 1997 a351.Thanks
 
  #5  
Old 12-02-2015, 05:46 AM
rla2005's Avatar
rla2005
rla2005 is online now
Hotshot
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 19,583
Received 1,163 Likes on 918 Posts
Originally Posted by Secret Squirrel 53
Newby needs help. Would like to know if a 1994 ECU would work in my 1997 truck? Both trucks are automatic .The 1994 has a 302 and the 1997 a351.Thanks
No....not going to work.
 
  #6  
Old 12-03-2015, 06:54 AM
Secret Squirrel 53's Avatar
Secret Squirrel 53
Secret Squirrel 53 is offline
New User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 12
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Cool E40D shift problems continue

Have tried all info given and problem still continues.Truck takes off and stays pinned between one to two k rpms back and forth until 30 mph where trans goes to forth and stays.Will not down shift. OD works fine.WTF?.Please help
 
  #7  
Old 12-03-2015, 07:33 AM
subford's Avatar
subford
subford is offline
Fleet Owner
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Easton,Ks
Posts: 23,603
Likes: 0
Received 227 Likes on 177 Posts
What do you mean by "No codes on engine or transmission.".
Are you getting 111 in all three code read outs (KOEO, CM & KOER)?
Or are you not able to get any codes at all including the 111?
If you can not get any codes then more than likely you have a bad computer.
 
  #8  
Old 12-03-2015, 07:35 PM
Briansshop's Avatar
Briansshop
Briansshop is offline
Fleet Mechanic
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: MD
Posts: 1,264
Received 81 Likes on 62 Posts
What happens if you shift it manually? Anything different?

All new to me, I'm just learning -rebuilding the E4OD in my Lightning ATM - but thinking maybe a prob with the intermediate sprag might cause what you're describing.
 
  #9  
Old 12-03-2015, 07:45 PM
Secret Squirrel 53's Avatar
Secret Squirrel 53
Secret Squirrel 53 is offline
New User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 12
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
97 F250

Subford Your knowledge on fords is awesome.ALL codes were 111 according to the Acton scanner.I used the EEC IV plug under hood on driver side.I also found a connector under ashtray that I have read is a code reading plug.Confussing situation.Just got off work and saw your post from this morning.Mucho Thanks.
 
  #10  
Old 12-03-2015, 09:06 PM
Secret Squirrel 53's Avatar
Secret Squirrel 53
Secret Squirrel 53 is offline
New User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 12
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Brainsshop

Thanks for responding.When I manuall shift all is fine.Whats involved with a sprag repair
 
  #11  
Old 12-04-2015, 06:47 AM
subford's Avatar
subford
subford is offline
Fleet Owner
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Easton,Ks
Posts: 23,603
Likes: 0
Received 227 Likes on 177 Posts
Originally Posted by Secret Squirrel 53
I also found a connector under ashtray that I have read is a code reading plug..
If the plug under the ashtray looks like the photo below it is for the Trailer Brake Controller and NOT for reading codes.



/
 
  #12  
Old 12-04-2015, 10:56 AM
Mark Kovalsky's Avatar
Mark Kovalsky
Mark Kovalsky is online now
Fleet Owner

Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: SE Florida
Posts: 23,255
Received 1,574 Likes on 1,052 Posts
Originally Posted by Secret Squirrel 53
Whats involved with a sprag repair
Pulling the trans out, tearing it down, and rebuilding it, replacing the sprag.
 
  #13  
Old 12-05-2015, 06:54 PM
Secret Squirrel 53's Avatar
Secret Squirrel 53
Secret Squirrel 53 is offline
New User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 12
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Thanks Mark

Please tell me what E40D tranys will work in my 97 F250 HD?Will half ton and SUV tranys work? Desperate to get my truck fixed.Al lhelp needed.
 
  #14  
Old 12-05-2015, 08:51 PM
Mark Kovalsky's Avatar
Mark Kovalsky
Mark Kovalsky is online now
Fleet Owner

Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: SE Florida
Posts: 23,255
Received 1,574 Likes on 1,052 Posts
You'll need to find one from another truck that has a 5.8L and 4x4. That's going to be either an F-250 or F-350.
 
  #15  
Old 12-06-2015, 02:56 AM
Lead Head's Avatar
Lead Head
Lead Head is offline
Lead Driver
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 7,867
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
I don't think it's a transmission issue if it works fine in the manual ranges. I'm not sure what you mean by it goes between 1000-2000 RPM over and over. That's not particularly descriptive.
 


Quick Reply: E4OD shift problems '97 F250 HD



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:24 AM.