1967 F100 Disc Brake Conversion
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In other words, can you say with any certainty, that the brake set up that I located (assuming it is from a 75 to 79 truck and my suspension is original 67), will not work if I use my own kingpin or the donor's kingpin to accomplish the swap.
Thanks and I truly appreciate all that you guys do to take care of me.
Thanks and I truly appreciate all that you guys do to take care of me.
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In this photo from Fordification, it says the notched radius arms from the Dentsides were for the '73-'79 models or, "some" '73-'79 models.
The notch in the forward end of the radius arm is for the locating pin on the Dentside sway bar endlink C-bracket to engage with (pins shown on C-brackets in photo immediately below). The forward-mounted factory sway bar didn't become available on the Dentside F100s through F350s until 1975 ('75-'79).
Sway bar endlink C-bracket on my truck. (you can also see part of the D5TA casting on the '77 F100 I-beam on my truck).
I haven't (knowingly) seen a '73/'74 radius arm to observe if this is true or not but, by reason of deduction, it would seem plausible that if the forward-mounted sway bar didn't come out until 1975 that there wouldn't be any notches at the forward ends of the radius arms on the '73/'74 models.
I notice in your photos the notches can be seen on the front end of the radius arms. If my theory is correct, you would have the disc assemblies from the later model '75-'79 F100/F150.
The notch in the forward end of the radius arm is for the locating pin on the Dentside sway bar endlink C-bracket to engage with (pins shown on C-brackets in photo immediately below). The forward-mounted factory sway bar didn't become available on the Dentside F100s through F350s until 1975 ('75-'79).
Sway bar endlink C-bracket on my truck. (you can also see part of the D5TA casting on the '77 F100 I-beam on my truck).
I haven't (knowingly) seen a '73/'74 radius arm to observe if this is true or not but, by reason of deduction, it would seem plausible that if the forward-mounted sway bar didn't come out until 1975 that there wouldn't be any notches at the forward ends of the radius arms on the '73/'74 models.
I notice in your photos the notches can be seen on the front end of the radius arms. If my theory is correct, you would have the disc assemblies from the later model '75-'79 F100/F150.
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Fantastic information on this thread. I am going to see if I come across a 73 or 74 truck (seems like the most straight forward) unless someone here has tried the swap that I was considering and was able to accomplish it without any problem or major modification.
Anyone that may have a need for the disc assemblies that I picked up, let me know.
Anyone that may have a need for the disc assemblies that I picked up, let me know.
#20
Fantastic information on this thread. I am going to see if I come across a 73 or 74 truck (seems like the most straight forward) unless someone here has tried the swap that I was considering and was able to accomplish it without any problem or major modification.
Anyone that may have a need for the disc assemblies that I picked up, let me know.
Anyone that may have a need for the disc assemblies that I picked up, let me know.
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Needs pivot bushings just as a matter of routine.. No radius arms... I used 'em on my 70.
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The beams will have to be from a '75-'79 F100/F150 to be compatible with the discs you have.
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I am posting 2 photographs of the proportioning valve off of the donor truck. I cleaned it a bit and it appears that the engineering number on the valve is C8TA-2857-M. Was this proportioning valve original to the truck or was a "C8" number used in the 75 through 79 trucks? In other words, I am wondering if the the valve was not replaced by the owner of the donor truck when he swapped out the brakes? Maybe that is why the truck had substantial front end damage.
Does anyone have the part number/engineering number of prop valve that is correct for 75-79 trucks?
Does anyone have the part number/engineering number of prop valve that is correct for 75-79 trucks?
#29
I am posting 2 photographs of the proportioning valve off of the donor truck. I cleaned it a bit and it appears that the engineering number on the valve is C8TA-2857-M. Was this proportioning valve original to the truck or was a "C8" number used in the 75 through 79 trucks? In other words, I am wondering if the the valve was not replaced by the owner of the donor truck when he swapped out the brakes? Maybe that is why the truck had substantial front end damage.
Does anyone have the part number/engineering number of prop valve that is correct for 75-79 trucks?
Does anyone have the part number/engineering number of prop valve that is correct for 75-79 trucks?
Not a proportioning valve. It is a pressure differential valve. It was used on ALL '67-'72 F100-F350 with all-wheel drums or, with optional discs front/drums rear on '68-'72 F250/F350 --only difference being the brake warning switch: '67 had one wire, '68-up had two wires and, a factory disc/drum F250/F350 would have had a separate metering valve plumbed into the front brake circuit.
An all-wheel drum brake Bumpside would not use metering or proportioning. It would just have the pressure differential valve that you have pictured.
The pressure differential valve pictured was stock to the '69. The person that swapped the Dentside front discs onto the '69 donor truck did not change out the brake valve.
If you're going to use a factory valve, you need to pull one from an actual Dentside truck or, locate an NOS Dentside brake valve for discs/drums.
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Not a proportioning valve. It is a pressure differential valve. It was used on ALL '67-'72 F100-F350 with all-wheel drums or, with optional discs front/drums rear on '68-'72 F250/F350 --only difference being the brake warning switch: '67 had one wire, '68-up had two wires and, a factory disc/drum F250/F350 would have had a separate metering valve plumbed into the front brake circuit.
An all-wheel drum brake Bumpside would not use metering or proportioning. It would just have the pressure differential valve that you have pictured.
The pressure differential valve pictured was stock to the '69. The person that swapped the Dentside front discs onto the '69 donor truck did not change out the brake valve.
If you're going to use a factory valve, you need to pull one from an actual Dentside truck or, locate an NOS Dentside brake valve for discs/drums.
An all-wheel drum brake Bumpside would not use metering or proportioning. It would just have the pressure differential valve that you have pictured.
The pressure differential valve pictured was stock to the '69. The person that swapped the Dentside front discs onto the '69 donor truck did not change out the brake valve.
If you're going to use a factory valve, you need to pull one from an actual Dentside truck or, locate an NOS Dentside brake valve for discs/drums.
I would imagine that the donor truck (69') brakes were not working optimally when it crashed, sending the truck to the salvage yard. What is the effect, if any, if you don't add a proportioning valve--rear brakes locking up or possibly a number of other braking failure issues?
Or, can I get away without changing the pressure differential valve without any concerns.