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Help me read my past due 5.8 spark plug pics!

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Old 11-19-2015, 07:21 AM
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Exclamation Help me read my past due 5.8 spark plug pics!

These are my 97' roller 5.8 plugs that I finally got out with lots of PB, time, and a 30'' breaker bar... unknown mileage. Engine is rounding 190K.




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darker brown like #8, perhaps contributed to a weak plug wire I replaced a year ago?



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Worst looking insulator of the bunch, or is that deposits?



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other side.



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It's common for #8 to have more ash, correct? Its also a darker brown.

Any feedback is welcome! Thanks!
 
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Old 11-19-2015, 07:40 AM
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Those look fine to me given the mileage. Just put new plugs in and also I would replace the wires as they have been under stress due to the old plugs. New cap and rotor while you are there.
 
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I'm replacing with the Ford single platinum plugs that are recommended, and MSD cap, rotor, and wires. Already replaced the coil with a MSD streetfire.
 
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Plugs are a little uneven, that's not surprising for that milage so an injector cleaning would not be a bad idea. Use only copper plugs in this motor the platinums will die prematurely.
 
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Those look like platinums and I don't think they were lacking for mileage.

Put in OE spec plugs, whether that is platinum or otherwise.
 
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Thanks for the replies!

This engine specs motorcraft ASF32P (SP-501) plugs supposedly, but I was tempted to run coppers in conjunction with a slightly hotter coil like people doing the 6.0 litre tune up recommend, but ended up getting the platinum's.

I'm not sure If I will end up bumping the timing or not.
 
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Just checked the gap on these, the only opened up to .045-.046 from the .044 spec.
 
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I run Autolite Copper plugs in all my Fords and they love them. Even my 4.6L which did call for platinum-waste-of-money plugs liked the coppers.

The idea of not changing plugs for 100K miles don't sit well with me... think of how many heat/cool cycles they would go thru and how hard they might be to remove afterwards. Besides, I like seeing how they're burning every so often.
 
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Originally Posted by dixie460
I run Autolite Copper plugs in all my Fords and they love them. Even my 4.6L which did call for platinum-waste-of-money plugs liked the coppers.

The idea of not changing plugs for 100K miles don't sit well with me... think of how many heat/cool cycles they would go thru and how hard they might be to remove afterwards. Besides, I like seeing how they're burning every so often.
I definitely agree. You have to admit though, had these not been platinum plugs, they probably would have caused some serious drivability issues before I could get them out of the engine... they only opened up one or two thousandths.
 
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Use a little anti-seize on the threads and next change will be a snap.
 
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Originally Posted by Bad Bad Leroy Brown
I definitely agree. You have to admit though, had these not been platinum plugs, they probably would have caused some serious drivability issues before I could get them out of the engine... they only opened up one or two thousandths.
True, platinums do wear better. But that's why I like my coppers... if I wait too long they let me know by misfiring under load. This forces me to change them whether I like it or not, which makes me look at their condition and potentially spot a problem before it gets serious.

To each his own...
 
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Originally Posted by dixie460
True, platinums do wear better. But that's why I like my coppers... if I wait too long they let me know by misfiring under load. This forces me to change them whether I like it or not, which makes me look at their condition and potentially spot a problem before it gets serious.

To each his own...
It wasn't my intention to diss coppers in any way, and I do appreciate the feedback.

I am kind of a maintenance nut, so believe me when I say the platinum's will not be run to death like these pictured were. Honestly the PO should have changed these before I bought it, but the PO probably should have maintained allot of things that I have found he didn't...
 
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Originally Posted by wag53
Use a little anti-seize on the threads and next change will be a snap.
I did! These clearly didn't have any applied, but the new one recieved some nice copper high temp anti seize...
 
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Originally Posted by Conanski
Plugs are a little uneven, that's not surprising for that milage so an injector cleaning would not be a bad idea. Use only copper plugs in this motor the platinums will die prematurely.
Do you mean a cleaner in the tank, or a manual cleaning on a flow bench? I believe I have the old pintle single port injectors, so I may upgrade to a clean set of the newer "multiport" style that are supposed to spray a finer mist of fuel.
 
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Originally Posted by Bad Bad Leroy Brown
It wasn't my intention to diss coppers in any way, and I do appreciate the feedback.

I am kind of a maintenance nut, so believe me when I say the platinum's will not be run to death like these pictured were. Honestly the PO should have changed these before I bought it, but the PO probably should have maintained allot of things that I have found he didn't...
No worries, I didn't take it as you dissing anything.
 

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