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All EFI 460 engines use cast aluminum valve covers with 4 bolts down the center. They won't fit the carbureted heads and vice versa.
 
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All EFI 460 engines use cast aluminum valve covers with 4 bolts down the center. They won't fit the carbureted heads and vice versa.
The heads I bought included valve covers and headers, so I'm covered there. A side benefit of going with older heads as opposed to a newer intake is that I can finally find aftermarket valve covers if I ever want to change them. Aftermarket support for the EFI seems to be a lot more limited.
 
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Originally Posted by Diesel_Brad
All we need is 1 pic of a valve cover. Or how many bolts holt it down? 4 or 7
4 bolts down the middle, (E7TE) and matching front dress.





Here is the distributor that came with the truck. I replaced it with a distributor designed for a 1987 460 (carb). Notice the old carb has C8VF stamped on it......


 
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That's the understatement of the century.
But there are headers, injectors, cams, rockers, throttle bodies and tuners available.
EFI is a different world and limited by what a speed denisity ecu will support.
MAF Cali trucks are the grail when it comes to performance options.
 
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The distributor on it was for a carbureted engine as it is a DS-II design. D8VF is the body casting number and simply signifies that it was released for the 1968 model year, the year the 460 came out.

Ford used the same basic distributor body design from the late 50s until they went to TFI systems, Breaker point models have a round hole the point lead passes through, DS units, either DS-I or DS-II, have a slot the 3 leads pass through.
 
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Originally Posted by ArdWrknTrk
That's the understatement of the century.
But there are headers, injectors, cams, rockers, throttle bodies and tuners available.
EFI is a different world and limited by what a speed denisity ecu will support.
MAF Cali trucks are the grail when it comes to performance options.
Call me a luddite, but I don't like relying on computers to do repairs. Pulling codes is not my idea of wrenching. I know there are a lot of benefits to EFI, but I can't imagine ever buying another EFI vehicle. I enjoy tinkering too much.
 
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Originally Posted by 85lebaront2
The distributor on it was for a carbureted engine as it is a DS-II design. D8VF is the body casting number and simply signifies that it was released for the 1968 model year, the year the 460 came out.

Ford used the same basic distributor body design from the late 50s until they went to TFI systems, Breaker point models have a round hole the point lead passes through, DS units, either DS-I or DS-II, have a slot the 3 leads pass through.

Great info. I should be able to keep my distributor then...right?
 
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D=1970's
It is designed for when DSII with the large cap *and a SNAP ON* cap adapter was installed on all 460's
Being a tuneup guy, Bill, you have to remember the screw down ones.

Too bad the P.O. decided to splice the unavailable distributor harness plug.
 
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Why not keep the dizzy if the shaft and gear are not worn and sloppy?
 
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Jim, the TFI distributors use a screw down adapter. As for screw down caps, many imports used them along with some marine applications.

I have been messing with engines (started with an old B&S 6BH) since I was around 12-13 which is now close to 60 years. I used to own a carburetor and ignition shop. I realized in the 70s that EFI was the future and started learning all I could about it. I told another member on here I could change my engine's tune with a laptop, and have a lot more parameters that can be changed to affect both performance and economy, and BTW, since I have an E4OD, transmission shift points, characteristics and converter lock/unlock.
 
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Originally Posted by ArdWrknTrk
D=1970's
It is designed for when DSII with the large cap *and a SNAP ON* cap adapter was installed on all 460's
Being a tuneup guy, Bill, you have to remember the screw down ones.

Too bad the P.O. decided to splice the unavailable distributor harness plug.
...that splice and a fried PIP sensor lead me to replace it. I don't have a picture of the new one, but it's essentially the same. I now have a new distributor, which also fixed a very frustrating heat soak issue that I spent a lot of time trying to figure out.
 
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Update: I got the heads taken completely apart and cleaned. I'm going to drop them off at the machine shop and see if they're worth rebuilding.


Side Note: The trick to cleaning heads in a bathtub is to either have a very understanding wife, or a very out-of-town wife. Mine is in Nashville visiting family for a few days.
 
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Pip is only in a TFI distributor.

The magnetic pickup in a DSII distributor should read somewhere 450-950 ohms across the orange and purple wires.
They do fail on occasion.
I've seen a lot of broken magnets too.
 
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Update: I got the heads taken completely apart and cleaned. I'm going to drop them off at the machine shop and see if they're worth rebuilding.


Side Note: The trick to cleaning heads in a bathtub is to either have a very understanding wife, or a very out-of-town wife. Mine is in Nashville visiting family for a few days.
Oh man!
I lol'd
Won't you pay more for bathtub cleaner than the shop would charge to tank them???

Try to explain the smell to your wife when you decide to cure the VHT on your headers in the oven!!!
 
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Oh man!
I lol'd
Won't you pay more for bathtub cleaner than the shop would charge to tank them???

Try to explain the smell to your wife when you decide to cure the VHT on your headers in the oven!!!

It's all about the experience man.....I spent $3 on a huge bottle of dawn and still had enough left over to wash myself AND the tub! With my wife and kid out of town, I really don't have anything better to do but drink beer and wreck the house. It's the simple pleasures.....
 


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