PUTC: 2017 Super Duty Details
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#48
Sounds like the Ram guy that claims getting over 20mpg. lol Flash ain't got nothing to do with it. The DPF's plugging up and Ford refusing to replace them has everything to do with it.
If you do a little reading, you will see that the DEF/SCR after treatment is a huge leap forward for engine health and emissions treatment.
You want to see bad? Just look what the 6.4l had to deal with, trying to perform with a 100% EGR "in" cylinder "treatment".
That system, if not removed, destroys an engine from the inside out usually within 100k. Remove EGR, and the engine becomes a 400k engine again.
DEF reduces EGR by half, and allows your Diesel engine to actually breath cleaner air again, instead of flooding your intake with engine killing exhaust.
I'm not afraid of the new emissions system at all.
Read up on SCR vs. EGR and you will understand that DEF is your friend.
You want to see bad? Just look what the 6.4l had to deal with, trying to perform with a 100% EGR "in" cylinder "treatment".
That system, if not removed, destroys an engine from the inside out usually within 100k. Remove EGR, and the engine becomes a 400k engine again.
DEF reduces EGR by half, and allows your Diesel engine to actually breath cleaner air again, instead of flooding your intake with engine killing exhaust.
I'm not afraid of the new emissions system at all.
Read up on SCR vs. EGR and you will understand that DEF is your friend.
#49
#50
I really like it! Especially the blue one pictured at the top of this thread. The dually fenders leave much to be desired but things can change. I'll never own one of these gems because I won't have a new truck until something like 2030. Ha!
I think what I like is it's more of a true redesign rather than tweaking the body year to year taking away people's favorite parts of each previous model years. Although the 2011 had significant changes. I mean from 99-2010 everything but the front ends sort of stayed the same.
To each their own. I'm sure my 08 won't leave the stable for many, many years to come. Can't afford these new beasts. Even if I could I'd likely jump to a cc 450/550 for the V10. I know the diesel is a beast, but it's just not for me unless I fall into some money.
I think what I like is it's more of a true redesign rather than tweaking the body year to year taking away people's favorite parts of each previous model years. Although the 2011 had significant changes. I mean from 99-2010 everything but the front ends sort of stayed the same.
To each their own. I'm sure my 08 won't leave the stable for many, many years to come. Can't afford these new beasts. Even if I could I'd likely jump to a cc 450/550 for the V10. I know the diesel is a beast, but it's just not for me unless I fall into some money.
#51
#52
Pretty sure its the same cab. That will save huge amounts on cost. Some of you guys forget that boys who want to feel like they have giant trucks are actually a very small portion of the buyers. Most go to companies who care about cost and utility. Many retail deals are based on combining capability for their personal needs with travel comfort. The "my truck is bigger than your" crowd is fairly small in new truck purchases.
#54
#55
Dually fenders are better than 11-16 IMO. Still not liking the nose, but the not-Platinum model is significantly better so far. Mirrors eh, headlights/grille eh, badges barf, but body, hood, and cab lines are a win in the newest pics. XL model pics are my favorites so far, the headlights don't look near as weird with black cutouts in them. So maybe the aftermarket will come up with a good replacement grille.
#57
Just read an article that says it's the same cab, that leaves me out, I would never be comfortable in a 150, too snug for my likes.
#58
#60
Dually fenders are better than 11-16 IMO. Still not liking the nose, but the not-Platinum model is significantly better so far. Mirrors eh, headlights/grille eh, badges barf, but body, hood, and cab lines are a win in the newest pics. XL model pics are my favorites so far, the headlights don't look near as weird with black cutouts in them. So maybe the aftermarket will come up with a good replacement grille.
Interior wise, I'll take a Ford interior over GM or Ram any day. I have sat in a '16 f150 and liked it a lot, and since these share the same cab they should be similar.
So overall for me if my '15 wasn't just 5 months old I wouldn't hesitate to buy one. Aluminum and all.