Interesting read...

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<p>Interesting find Rodney.</p><p>In the end I don't think it's going to matter to the guy behind the wheel. &nbsp;Even if the actual torque is a few lb-ft more at 1,600 RPMs, it loses all meaning when the downshift happens. &nbsp;Once both engines climb in revs the Powerstroke will pull significantly harder. &nbsp;</p>

 

I say -

Have an independent party select a random truck off of each lot.
Put them all on the same chassis dyno with the same weather / temperature conditions.
Drop the effing hammer...

It's where the rubber meets the road that counts and nothing else.

Plus ---
Of the guys on this forum and the other forums have gone to the dyno to get measured up before they tuned up, I can't recall a single one that pulled down torque figures less than what was sold to them by Ford. Matter of fact, I recall one of them being substantially higher than 860..

 

At the power levels available to us, I'd be much more excited about class leading economy, more advanced gearing, and strategies to save fuel.

The cummins has 3 available power levels matched to different transmissions. I'd be curious what the mpg averages are across these platforms. If it correlates, I'd like to choose when I'd like the 440/860 and when I'd like 350/750. Admittedly, it probably doesn't matter with the kind of fuel systems we have, it's probably all the same.

But yeah, comparisons and stuff is fun to read.

 

The 2017 Super Duty is reported* to be equipped with a 10 speed transmission... That enough gears for ya????

* not corroborated by Ford

 

A 10-speed automatic would be great. The last 10-speed I drove wasn't, and I nearly wore out my left leg with the clutch!

 

10 gears could be good for mileage. You could hold the sweat spot all the way the climb.

 

pickuptrucks.com is one of the places to watch when it comes to an independent assessment.


The whole package and how it handles/tows is what is important to me.


Sitting in the saddle for 12 hours or more and still feeling good in the end.

 

Heck yea, best of both worlds. 4.30 gear for easy in town driving and a tall overdrive for cruising. Both big pluses to using power from the engine without the need for heavy fuel/boost to make it feel right. (By feel right, you have to admit that these new diesels are ridiculously close to driving a big gas v-8 in the way they get off the line in traffic)

 

story about tech sharing between F150 and Mustang, and 10 speed tranny

2015 Ford F-150 sport mode | Details, specs | Digital Trends

 

Rediculously close????
To quote Mr. T
---- Ah pity da foo dat try to keep up wit mah truck an he only have a gasser!!!

I think a head to head matching truck race between a 6.7 and a 6.2 woukd result in the 6.2 being left in the dust...

I just hope if the put a 10 speed in the Super Duties that it's not one of those Dual Clutch gearboxes like the wife's 2012 Focus has... Fine for a car and light duty use, but I don't know if I could trust it in a SD truck...
I read somewhere that the Aisin tranny for Rams is going or has gone that route...

 

I'm all for the 10 speed on my 450...

 

A common complaint among the Ram crowd is that torque management makes them doubt they EVER get the torque claimed to be available. If the engine is capable of putting out 900 ft/lb, but the computer limits it to 600 lb/ft to protect the drivetrain, it really doesn't matter about the 900 ft/lbs.

 

Just one more gear would make me happy with my 11-450 otherwise I think it's perfect!

 

I'm not explaining myself too well. New diesels are so much more responsive nowadays compared to ten years ago. I just meant that the new diesels feel like a gas motor with how they deliver power, just lots more of it.