MAD! AC Issue
#17
Sixto
93 E150 Chateau 5.8 191K miles
#18
I hate to be the dick to say this but I do not get these snide remarks or comments on my GM page for all my other vehicle. Makes me realize why oh why I am a GM guy they are just more friendly....
I will not be using this forum any longer as I have had no apparent reason to listen to any of you guys when all you do is tell me how I did this wrong, I am cheap and comments like "what did you expect?" Not comments like we'll pull it apart and replace what hasn't been replaced and go from there. Instead of helping me fix my problem yall are criticizing how I made the problem.
Sorry guys but I am less than impressed with this forum
I will not be using this forum any longer as I have had no apparent reason to listen to any of you guys when all you do is tell me how I did this wrong, I am cheap and comments like "what did you expect?" Not comments like we'll pull it apart and replace what hasn't been replaced and go from there. Instead of helping me fix my problem yall are criticizing how I made the problem.
Sorry guys but I am less than impressed with this forum
Sorry again we can't give you answers you want but maybe the GM guys have a different take on all this for you? Being a life-long fan of GM performance there's not too many instances where this same approach is advisable on ANY brand of vehicle.
Back up and fix your screw ups with new or known good parts and proceed in a fashion that's accepted as being the correct way to effect a good repair. That's my advice even if its not to your liking.
Best of luck where ever you end up----------you've surely made all this "interesting" !
#19
Look I use used parts because I've had good luck in my 15 years mechanical experience. When it comes to a part that is broken in and working a junkyard is wonderful. If the vehicle is wrecked guess what that means it was running prior to be junked. The compressor I got is awesome. Did I make mistakes in going upon this repair? Yes I did, but I have had no prior "frustrations" with air conditioning like this to steer me in a direction of spending ALL extra money at a shop. I do not appreciate you guys criticizing me in my choice of repairs nor the attitudes and down talking to me about. All I asked for was advice and to be honest nobody has given it really anything to me. I sat for 3 weeks with a topic in the a/c section when my air went out and not one single response.
I hate to be the dick to say this but I do not get these snide remarks or comments on my GM page for all my other vehicle. Makes me realize why oh why I am a GM guy they are just more friendly....
I will not be using this forum any longer as I have had no apparent reason to listen to any of you guys when all you do is tell me how I did this wrong, I am cheap and comments like "what did you expect?" Not comments like we'll pull it apart and replace what hasn't been replaced and go from there. Instead of helping me fix my problem yall are criticizing how I made the problem.
Sorry guys but I am less than impressed with this forum
I hate to be the dick to say this but I do not get these snide remarks or comments on my GM page for all my other vehicle. Makes me realize why oh why I am a GM guy they are just more friendly....
I will not be using this forum any longer as I have had no apparent reason to listen to any of you guys when all you do is tell me how I did this wrong, I am cheap and comments like "what did you expect?" Not comments like we'll pull it apart and replace what hasn't been replaced and go from there. Instead of helping me fix my problem yall are criticizing how I made the problem.
Sorry guys but I am less than impressed with this forum
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jim
#20
If he had flushed the system, even using the used parts, the outcome would have been different.
I also see no mention of him adding oil to the system. Just $120 of Freon.
Dog gone Ford people anyway. Ya'll made his truck break. LOL
I also see no mention of him adding oil to the system. Just $120 of Freon.
Dog gone Ford people anyway. Ya'll made his truck break. LOL
#21
It's funny, this whole thing is funny.
1- no there is no way to prove anything from the junkyard is in fact good. But at a price of $35 dollars for an ac compressor that is full of freon and has good compression off of a truck with less than 79k miles. It was worth taking that chance.
2- yes I used oil, I'm not stupid by any means. Cleaned out the compressor of old junk which was nothing and installed new union seals.
3-should I have installed a new orifice and drier at this point...yes. but my initial thought was my system was in working condition and not leaking so should be alright to swap out the compressor and be good to go.
4-new orifice tube and cleaned lines after a full charge of freon yes I was made at myself for not doing it to begin with.
5-now my issue is and still is stuff in the system clogging the lines. I have acquired a new drier and high and low pressure lines, good compressor another new orifice and all new orings and seals.
With all of this money spent you guys need to understand I spoke to a friend of mine and for his air shop to do everything new like I'm doing now I am still coming out cheaper just more frustrated because of what I've done.
So in the end after its done I complete it myself for cheaper. You guys can patronize me all you want for used parts I do not care.
All I asked for was advice to my problem not opinions on how I went upon it.
Good day to you all
1- no there is no way to prove anything from the junkyard is in fact good. But at a price of $35 dollars for an ac compressor that is full of freon and has good compression off of a truck with less than 79k miles. It was worth taking that chance.
2- yes I used oil, I'm not stupid by any means. Cleaned out the compressor of old junk which was nothing and installed new union seals.
3-should I have installed a new orifice and drier at this point...yes. but my initial thought was my system was in working condition and not leaking so should be alright to swap out the compressor and be good to go.
4-new orifice tube and cleaned lines after a full charge of freon yes I was made at myself for not doing it to begin with.
5-now my issue is and still is stuff in the system clogging the lines. I have acquired a new drier and high and low pressure lines, good compressor another new orifice and all new orings and seals.
With all of this money spent you guys need to understand I spoke to a friend of mine and for his air shop to do everything new like I'm doing now I am still coming out cheaper just more frustrated because of what I've done.
So in the end after its done I complete it myself for cheaper. You guys can patronize me all you want for used parts I do not care.
All I asked for was advice to my problem not opinions on how I went upon it.
Good day to you all
#22
When a lot of people are all saying the same thing, it might be worth considering what they are saying. I've tried to half-*** AC work myself in the past and found it to be minimally successful. If your system is evacuated, always pull the orifice tube. It's $2 to replace and tells you about the crap in your system. Driers are cheap too if you go with an aftermarket so replace it. They have desiccant in them that gets saturated over time or if the system is open to the environment for any length of time. It is standard practice to replace them. You don't want moisture in your system.
You need to vac down the system before filling it for an extended period of time to boil off moisture, otherwise you've got a bunch of wet air in it that will result in poor performance and inability to fill properly.
Since you crashed a compressor, you do have crap in your lines. It's best if you can flush the system. There are products for that, however compressed air might be enough. Back flush the condenser and evaporator, change the drier and orifice tube.
AC just is a sensitive system and you can't mess around with it. Your frustration isn't surprising. It takes extra care, equipment and $$$ to keep AC working properly.
You need to vac down the system before filling it for an extended period of time to boil off moisture, otherwise you've got a bunch of wet air in it that will result in poor performance and inability to fill properly.
Since you crashed a compressor, you do have crap in your lines. It's best if you can flush the system. There are products for that, however compressed air might be enough. Back flush the condenser and evaporator, change the drier and orifice tube.
AC just is a sensitive system and you can't mess around with it. Your frustration isn't surprising. It takes extra care, equipment and $$$ to keep AC working properly.
#23
Ya know for someone who was hell bent on bashing FTE and Fords in general this miscreant sure seems to have staying power, maybe a new nickname could be "cling on", as in dingleberries?
Here's another of his rants: https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...ssue-e350.html Same topics, same results, same finger pointing no one can or wants to help---call the whambulance someone please, 9-1-1 STAT?!
Is it any wonder people here aren't eager to help? I mean WTF?!?! If it were that unhappy with another brand vehicle or a forum I'd sure as heck not keep coming back.
Here's another of his rants: https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...ssue-e350.html Same topics, same results, same finger pointing no one can or wants to help---call the whambulance someone please, 9-1-1 STAT?!
Is it any wonder people here aren't eager to help? I mean WTF?!?! If it were that unhappy with another brand vehicle or a forum I'd sure as heck not keep coming back.
#24
Ya know for someone who was hell bent on bashing FTE and Fords in general this miscreant sure seems to have staying power, maybe a new nickname could be "cling on", as in dingleberries?
Here's another of his rants: https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...ssue-e350.html Same topics, same results, same finger pointing no one can or wants to help---call the whambulance someone please, 9-1-1 STAT?!
Is it any wonder people here aren't eager to help? I mean WTF?!?! If it were that unhappy with another brand vehicle or a forum I'd sure as heck not keep coming back.
Here's another of his rants: https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...ssue-e350.html Same topics, same results, same finger pointing no one can or wants to help---call the whambulance someone please, 9-1-1 STAT?!
Is it any wonder people here aren't eager to help? I mean WTF?!?! If it were that unhappy with another brand vehicle or a forum I'd sure as heck not keep coming back.
#25
Well sure but with or withOUT functioning A/C?
#26
Not to pile on, but there was mention that a wrecked vehicle must have been running prior to being wrecked... I had an old Escort wagon with a blown engine I was intending to repair. One night, a drunk driver failed to negotiate a curve and destroyed the rear end of the wagon. I'm talking it looked like a hatchback after he creamed it. It was, of course totaled. And no, it was quite far from running prior to being wrecked. It obviously happens. Seems we have a guy more interested in lashing out than playing nice. Oh well.
#27
Aside from some ridiculous Ford vs GM bashing, I'm with Oldsman.
Guy had a question and JWA immediately started bashing. The other people that followed weren't nearly as harsh but "helpfulness" wasn't the theme.
Guy had a question and JWA immediately started bashing. The other people that followed weren't nearly as harsh but "helpfulness" wasn't the theme.
#28
I'll say I'm not bashing. I may be doing a little ball busting, but I mean no harm or animosity towards the OP. I will say that I am upset that such sour responses were posted. I will say I sincerely apologize if I offended. I really would love to help, but I don't know how anymore since there is a bit of hostility.
#29
Right on!
I'll say I'm not bashing. I may be doing a little ball busting, but I mean no harm or animosity towards the OP. I will say that I am upset that such sour responses were posted. I will say I sincerely apologize if I offended. I really would love to help, but I don't know how anymore since there is a bit of hostility.
I disagree with much of the OP's procedures for his A/C repair, but he didn't deserve the responses he got from this thread. If anyone would go back and re-read the thread I think people will find it very clear.