Missing Crossmember
#1
Missing Crossmember
So while under my truck this weekend investigating the flex plate and transmission leaks I realized I was missing a crossmember.
I researched it today and it looks like this is crossmember #2 5025. I suppose it was cut out as one could not remove the swapped in C4 from underneath and this could not get it out without taking the whole motor out.
I assume this is a pretty big deal. I've mentioned before the sloppiness of the truck which has improved with the rebuilt steering column but still not as good as jowilker's. Would this have an affect on that?
How can I fix it?? I read on 66 these should be bolted in so why the heck cut it out???
A few pics. It does look like there is a bolt up top too but it looks like it is riveted to radius arm bracket. Of course I might not know what I am talkin about.
Any help appreciated!!!
I researched it today and it looks like this is crossmember #2 5025. I suppose it was cut out as one could not remove the swapped in C4 from underneath and this could not get it out without taking the whole motor out.
I assume this is a pretty big deal. I've mentioned before the sloppiness of the truck which has improved with the rebuilt steering column but still not as good as jowilker's. Would this have an affect on that?
How can I fix it?? I read on 66 these should be bolted in so why the heck cut it out???
A few pics. It does look like there is a bolt up top too but it looks like it is riveted to radius arm bracket. Of course I might not know what I am talkin about.
Any help appreciated!!!
#2
So while under my 1966 F100 2WD this weekend investigating the flex plate and transmission leaks I realized I was missing a crossmember.
I researched it today and it looks like this is crossmember #2 5025. I suppose it was cut out as one could not remove the swapped in C4 from underneath and this could not get it out without taking the whole motor out. I assume this is a pretty big deal. I've mentioned before the sloppiness of the truck which has improved with the rebuilt steering column but still not as good as jowilker's.
Would this have an affect on that?
Missing cross member would most definitely have an affect.
How can I fix it??
Since it's missing, the only 'fix' is to find one and install it.
I read on 66 these should be bolted in so why the heck cut it out?
I researched it today and it looks like this is crossmember #2 5025. I suppose it was cut out as one could not remove the swapped in C4 from underneath and this could not get it out without taking the whole motor out. I assume this is a pretty big deal. I've mentioned before the sloppiness of the truck which has improved with the rebuilt steering column but still not as good as jowilker's.
Would this have an affect on that?
Missing cross member would most definitely have an affect.
How can I fix it??
Since it's missing, the only 'fix' is to find one and install it.
I read on 66 these should be bolted in so why the heck cut it out?
#3: 6A023 is the rear engine support bracket that some people call a cross member. It bolts to the frame rails, but I don't know if #2 5025 was bolted or riveted on.
C5TZ-5025-A .. #2 Cross Member / Obsolete
Applications: 1965/72 F100/250 2WD / 1968/72 F350 / 1973/77 F250 2WD & F350 Crew Cab / 1974/76 F250 2WD Super Cab / 1974/79 F100 2WD Super Cab / 1975/79 F150 2WD Super Cab.
NOS PARTS SOURCE in Olathe KS has 1 = 913-220-5746.
GREEN SALES CO. in Cincinnati OH has 1 = 800-543-4959.
FYI: Call Tom @ Flashback F-100's in Reidsville NC (336-421-3979). He may have a used cross member. Give him ALL the applications I listed.
#3
They were riveted for the smaller 3 spd., bolted for the auto that would not come out without pulling the engine. I had my C6 rebuilt and then installed with the new rebuilt engine. Shortly afterwards it needed to go back to the tranny shop and they had to remove the rivets to get the C6 out.
John
John
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#6
In my previous car buying experience crawling under to make sure everything was actually there didn't cross my mind. Welcome to the world of old vehicles. I bought this to learn things and at least that part is working out!
#7
Oh and I checked with Green Sales, they don't actually have the part. $120 shipped from NOS. Haven't talked to Flashback yet and I have asked a guy in the marketplace here about a 65 part out he is doing.
But what about this one on eBay:
Ford Frame Crossmember C5TZ5025A | eBay
$50 shipped is a lost less than $120. Does that part look right? Number is correct and it looks like what I've seen Googling.
But what about this one on eBay:
Ford Frame Crossmember C5TZ5025A | eBay
$50 shipped is a lost less than $120. Does that part look right? Number is correct and it looks like what I've seen Googling.
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#8
Oh and I checked with Green Sales, they don't actually have the part. $120 shipped from NOS. Haven't talked to Flashback yet and I have asked a guy in the marketplace here about a 65 part out he is doing.
But what about this brand new one on eBay: Ford Frame Crossmember C5TZ5025A | eBay
$50 shipped is a lot less than $120. Does that part look right? Number is correct and it looks like what I've seen Googling.
But what about this brand new one on eBay: Ford Frame Crossmember C5TZ5025A | eBay
$50 shipped is a lot less than $120. Does that part look right? Number is correct and it looks like what I've seen Googling.
The reason is, the trucks that used these parts are no longer in service.
Brand new for 50 bucks shipped is a roaring bargain, compared to brand new shipped for 120 bucks.
#11
EBay was definitely a steal. Flashback wanted $140 + shipping.
So when I go to replace this crossmember, is there anything I need to be aware of as far as jackstands at a specific point? My guess is there is a slight twist outwards on the frame now which would explain the alignment issues and very bad inner front tire wear. Any suggestions on how to get it lined up properly?
Also, as I have to remove the rivets that go to the radius arm brackets, probably a good time to do those bushings? Anything else while I am in the area?
So when I go to replace this crossmember, is there anything I need to be aware of as far as jackstands at a specific point? My guess is there is a slight twist outwards on the frame now which would explain the alignment issues and very bad inner front tire wear. Any suggestions on how to get it lined up properly?
Also, as I have to remove the rivets that go to the radius arm brackets, probably a good time to do those bushings? Anything else while I am in the area?
#12
Matt, That is crazy, you need to go yarding bro. EZ Auto Sales & Salvage Llc 1400 Phelps Rd Hillsborough, NC 27278 (919) 732-2481 is closest to you. I just Google Mapped that address and there weren't as many vehicles there as there once was. There is 2 or 3 yards on Harvest St in Durham,
You might be able to get one for $10.00. Pull one from an automatic and have everything for your truck.
ND are there any bolt hole differences in bolt pattern 65-79 for the cross member? Also should be able to grab a tape measure and map the bolt holes.
John
You might be able to get one for $10.00. Pull one from an automatic and have everything for your truck.
ND are there any bolt hole differences in bolt pattern 65-79 for the cross member? Also should be able to grab a tape measure and map the bolt holes.
John
#13
John, I hear ya, but the $50 for a new part from the Uhaul place is a good enough time/money balance for me. Even if I could find one for $10 at one of those three places, depending on how long it took to find it and get it out, I'd rather just pay $50. I barely have enough time to work on it at this point.
#15
John, I hear ya, but the $50 for a new part from the Uhaul place is a good enough time/money balance for me. Even if I could find one for $10 at one of those three places, depending on how long it took to find it and get it out, I'd rather just pay $50. I barely have enough time to work on it at this point.
John