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Old 08-03-2015, 12:59 PM
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Torque Shift 2-3 & 3-4 Flare

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I've been dealing with this flare for a little while now, didn't pay much attention to it until I started to feel it on the 2-3 shift as well. I know that I can change my shift pressures with my SCT, but I really would like to get this figured out and not "mask" a problem if 1 truly exists.

I'm not really good with trannies, but I was hoping someone can point me in a direction. I've done a general TSB search and I did replace my DC solenoid thinking maybe that would help with the 3-4 shift but it didn't change.

The truck has no codes in it and fluid is full and clean, last year when I pulled the pan to do a service there was no debris or discoloration in the pan or in the external filter or housing. Also my temps seem to be in check with the highest I see towing is about 190*

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Bumpin it up so hopefully Mark sees it!!!

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Old 08-03-2015, 06:57 PM
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Torque Shift 2-3 & 3-4 Flare

I eliminated the 3-5 flare with a modified direct clutch solenoid. I have to back the shift pressures down by 5 percent with my sct tuner.
 
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Old 08-05-2015, 08:51 AM
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I have a modified solenoid as well, but it didn't help the 3-4 at all.

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You mean the shift that only happens when it is really cold or on some downshifts?
 
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Down shifts are normally good, its just upshifts that have the flare, most noticeable is the 3-4 upshift.

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Are you sure that it is actually 3-4?

The trans usually shifts
1-2
2-3
3-5
5-6

4th is only used at certain times.
 
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Well according to my CTS its 3-4, I never see 6 only 5 Lock.

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My Edge Insight says the same thing. It is actually the 3-5 shift that is taking place.

Which modified solenoid did you install?
 
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Old 08-05-2015, 12:14 PM
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IM pretty sure it was the direct clutch soloniod
 
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Old 08-05-2015, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Sarge261
IM pretty sure it was the direct clutch soloniod
Who modded it?
 
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Old 08-05-2015, 02:07 PM
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The direct clutch is not applied in 4th gear. It is on in 5th and 6th. 4th gear is the intermediate and overdrive clutches.
 
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Old 08-06-2015, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by MisterCMK
Who modded it?
Empire Performance Engineering.

So where do I start to look Mark...possibly another solenoid or internal hard parts?


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I had a similar problem before my tranny went, What caused it was The Manual Valve had been worn and I would loose pressure. I had a delay from P to R & D, It finally went and wiped out the TC and burned all the clutches.

I mot saying thats you problem but I would get it checked out before it cost you $3,500 plus......
 
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Originally Posted by Sarge261
Empire Performance Engineering.

So where do I start to look Mark...possibly another solenoid or internal hard parts?
The only thing that the 2-3 and 3-5 shifts have in common is the intermediate. The intermediate clutch is applied by the intermediate solenoid for the 2-3 shift, and the intermediate clutch is released by the intermediate solenoid for the 3-5 shift. Other things are happening during those shifts, too.

If the intermediate solenoid were the problem it would have to be slow to apply and too fast to release to create a flare on both the 2-3 and 3-5. Is it possible? I can't say it's impossible, but it seems improbable.

The theory that the manual valve is leaking seems more likely to me.
 


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