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Old 07-21-2015, 11:57 PM
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1948-1952 F-1 Info Wanted

I am in the process of rebuilding my 1949 F-1 and for some time now I have been studying any trucks I see to get ideas. The pic below was posted on this site a while back. It was taken at Bonneville in 2009. I like this truck. Please take a good look and tell me what you see.



I like the color, the large rear window, the vintage wheels and caps, the F-1 logo on the cowl side, and the large mirrors. What do you see, what do you know, about this truck.
 
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The cab is 51 or 52 (rear window is give away), '48 SS grill covers, '48-'50 front end, an early style bed (48 to early 50) and dual wipers
 
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Thanks Moe,

I like the black running boards and black (big) mirrors. Any guess on the hub caps?
 
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Hubcaps are either stock F-1 or Ford car 39-48, I can't quite tell which. Wheels are likely repro's of the same....the rears look a bit wider.
That truck has a nice stance, but hard to say what's underneath....could be IFS or a dropped axle.
 
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Normally I would agree with everything that's been said butcant be sure about the cab. Easiest way to get a big rear window would be a cab swap.
However I once read an article about swapping the back of a small window cab for the bigger window panel. Also I personally saw a 48-50 cab with the big rear window the dash was a 48-50 style. (You could swap rear panels, just the window from or a 51-52, or a 48-50 dash to 51-52 cab for the look.) Not saying it was factory or swapped but they are out there...
 
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1low50,

Well, I plan to add another big-window 1950 to the population. I have driven many miles in my 1950 small rear window and now some miles in a 1952 big-window. The bigger window really makes it easier to see in your blind spot, I want that in my 1950.
 
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Old members will remember a thread where a NOS 48-50 cab was listed on eBay in pieces. The roof and dash were 48-50, the back panel was 51/52. As I recall it was learned that replacement 48-50 cabs for collision repair came only with the larger 51/52 back panel. Makes sense that Ford would only keep parts inventory for the later version. I'll see if I can find that old thread. Stu

Edit - here's the thread I remember. Stu

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...-for-sale.html
 
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Yeah, if you look closely at these pics you can see that the cab is a 5-star cab, check that heater and the pass door panel. So, I think the cab and the front sheet metal are from different trucks.




I have heard the stories about service 48-50 cabs having 51-52 big windows, always made me wonder, but a lot of strange things did happen back then. Not the case with the truck in pics above.
 
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Here's a thread I remember that Chuck commented on. Stu

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...dow-50-f1.html
 
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I found this thread on NOS F-1 cabs. Several years ago I bought a NOS front and rear cab repair panels. The front has firewall, '48-'50 dash and complete roof. The rear has small rear window and rear panel. The only other that I have ever seen was an identical front at Hershey a few years ago. Seems like the seller wanted $500 for the piece. I have kept mine in case of the need of wreck repair.
 
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My truck has a 48 cab with a 51-52 rear window. I dont know when it was done, but I do like having the bigger window.

If you want to look at my gallery here: 1948 Ford F1 - Album on Imgur
You can see my dash is the 48 dash, and there is even a date stamped on the firewall that faintly reads 1948. Id post the individual photos, but I am on my mobile right now.
 
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Yeah, if you look closely at these pics you can see that the cab is a 5-star cab, check that heater and the pass door panel. So, I think the cab and the front sheet metal are from different trucks.




I have heard the stories about service 48-50 cabs having 51-52 big windows, always made me wonder, but a lot of strange things did happen back then. Not the case with the truck in pics above.
Walt, that truck has the 48-50 front sheet metal (doghouse) and a 51-52 cab. My understanding is that all 51-52 cabs were referred to as 5 star, but then there was the deluxe or extra cab. I don't see the two tone dash, the windshield trim nor the red and silver 'Extra' seat.
 
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Joe,
Yeah, I really don't know much about what Ford called trim levels back then. I do see a "top-of-the-line" heater and I see the door trim panels, arm rests, and stainless vent windows, all of which tell me that the cab of this truck is a "Top-of-the-line" and I have been told none of those trim items were available on 48-50 trucks.

Who knows the story on how these trucks get to how we see them today? I would like to put my 1949 F-1 back together with as many 48-52 "Deluxe" features as possible, with as many "roadworthy" improvements as possible, and as many "safety" improvements as possible.

Walt
 
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I'd avoid getting too hung up on the F-3 M-H, it's had a lot of parts swapping. Unless my eyes are playing tricks it is a 51/52 based on having the front differential located on the driver side. That means it's an R32-4 with two speed transfer case, first available in '51. Stu

Edit - The Magic Air could have been ordered on base 5 Star as well as on 5 Star Extra equipped trucks. It was a stand alone option. Stu

Edit edit - the more I look the more I see. The hand brake location says it's an early '51 having the 14" rear drums and parking brake at the corners rather than transmission. Stu
 
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Thanks Stu!
 


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