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1965 F-600 Specifications/options information

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I am purchasing a 1965 F-600 dump flatbed farm truck that I have not seen in person yet and am wondering where to find Specifications and options information for the truck. I have never committed to a purchase without an in person visit, but this seems to be worthy of an exception to the rule.

I do not have a VIN or other real information other than:
1965 F-600 dump flatbed
4 speed trans
2 speed rear
V-8

The F-600 has the V-8 which I assume is the 330. The Carb is said to leak, so I need to bring along gaskets when I pick up the truck. Would it have come with a Carter 2bbl?

If someone might be able to point me to some specifications and options information for the truck, that would be most helpful!

Thanks!
 
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No one can do that.

2 different 330s were offered.
Maybe 2 different transmissions.
Several axle ratings and ratio combinations
Several wheelbase options
2 cab options

Features at this point would include rust and brakes in need of work. Shoes and wheel cylinders are available. Drums are not and can hard to get in serviceable condition.

If you are a betting man and can risk the costs including having to haul it to the scrappy go ahead and buy it without seeing it. Those were very good trucks and it might still be a runner. Maybe.
 
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Carb as oem would be a governed Holley.
 
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Originally Posted by 85e150six4mtod
No one can do that.

2 different 330s were offered.
Maybe 2 different transmissions.
Several axle ratings and ratio combinations
Several wheelbase options
2 cab options

Features at this point would include rust and brakes in need of work. Shoes and wheel cylinders are available. Drums are not and can hard to get in serviceable condition.

If you are a betting man and can risk the costs including having to haul it to the scrappy go ahead and buy it without seeing it. Those were very good trucks and it might still be a runner. Maybe.
The owner thinks the 330 is the "Industrial" (maybe HD?)

Sometimes there are old advertising documents or specifications pages available. I suppose that is what I am looking for at this point.

You mention 2 cab options. Seems like that information could be found somewhere. I know it is not a snub nose.

I am guessing the trans might be a NP 435, but do not have facts to work with.

The truck has always been parked in a equipment shed and only worked on a farm. Very straight body, good chrome, and survived in an environment/climate where rust is usually not much of an issue. Just under 58,000 miles and has been driven fairly recently. New wheel cylinders and master cylinder are installed.

I'm usually not a betting man at all, but this one feels like a good roll...

Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
 
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If the brakes are good, then that's half the battle.

Can you call the guy, and request he give you the VIN number and any other information stamped on the tag on the back face of the driver's door? If so, you can post that info. and it can be decoded. That would give you a lot better idea of what the truck has.

For instance, the 330 motor could be either a medium duty or a heavy duty version, and either one could be considered an "industrial" motor. The VIN number will tell which version it actually is (assuming it's never been swapped out with something different, of course).

The two cab options were most likely standard or custom cab. The custom cab simply has a little more chrome trim and some other beads & trinkets, so to speak. The other information on the door tag will tell which cab it is.

Good luck, it sounds like a worthwhile truck to have!
 
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Originally Posted by FBNengr
If the brakes are good, then that's half the battle.

Can you call the guy, and request he give you the VIN number and any other information stamped on the tag on the back face of the driver's door? If so, you can post that info. and it can be decoded. That would give you a lot better idea of what the truck has.

For instance, the 330 motor could be either a medium duty or a heavy duty version, and either one could be considered an "industrial" motor. The VIN number will tell which version it actually is (assuming it's never been swapped out with something different, of course).

The two cab options were most likely standard or custom cab. The custom cab simply has a little more chrome trim and some other beads & trinkets, so to speak. The other information on the door tag will tell which cab it is.

Good luck, it sounds like a worthwhile truck to have!
Thanks for the comments. i have asked for the VIN and additional tag information and will post when I receive it.

Thanks again!
 
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Sounding better. Sorry I did not include the VIN and warranty/data plate as suggested by FBNengr in his rep-worthy post.

That will tell the tale as explained in his post.

And yes, he is correct, if the brakes are good, especially life left in the drums, you are in good shape.
 
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I now have a VIN to work with, but do not find decoding information for the shorter VIN's.

F60AR649202

Is there a page or chart available on this site (or elsewhere) I can use to decode?
 

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Hi Woodsman Rick,

Not a lot to work with here, but we'll try. I have a 1973 Ford Truck Manual that explains how to decode 1973 trucks. Using that info. and a quick google search for '65 data, here's what I've come up with...............

F60AR649202
F60 = F600.
A = 330 V8 2V Med. Duty, 160 H.P.
R = San Jose CA. assembly plant.
649202 = Sequential serial number.

Too bad you don't have more info. at this point, we could figure out a lot more with the body, color, trim, trans, and axle codes, etc. etc.

You will probably have to see the carburetor in person to know what you have. Most likely, the carb. would have been used on several different years worth of med. & heavy duty trucks, and light duty trucks & cars too if non-governed. Napa Auto Parts should be able to identify the carb. and get you a kit fairly quickly. Other parts stores might be "iffy" as to whether they can identify and fix you up with a kit or not.

Good Luck with your , if you get the thing please post some pictures!
 
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The carb is a Ford C4TF-AK and I have a rebuild kit located. It sounds and looks in a photograph like it is might be leaking at the accelerator pump. That should be something I can fix quickly before I drive it home.

The brakes need to be bled as well. New wheel cylinders and master cylinder have been installed sometime recently, but possibly not bled correctly. I do not have a manual, but understand there may be another component located under the drivers side step that needs to be bled first. I'm not sure what the component is. Does anyone have a photograph, illustration or information to share on this?

I understand the old split rims on this could be an issue. I worked on a lot of split rims in the past, but have never seen this design before.

Lastly, I'm wondering what I might see for MPG if I drive about 50-55 MPH heading home, if I purchase it. I'm guessing it was not designed or intended to go much faster.

Thanks to all for your comments and information!
 

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I did some research and found the rims are the old RH-5º. I've had those before and nobody works on them. Even my local Les Schwab says they will not even put air into them.

Cost of upgrade rims and tires are about $3200.00, so I'm moving on...

Too bad ask it is a very nice looking truck!
 
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Certain on that, not just locking rings?

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/8...ow-makers.html

Locking ring OK:

http://www.tpub.com/eqopbas/12535_files/image198.jpg

Rh 5, not ok:

Budd 1954 Firestone "RH-5°" And "RH-5° L" Mount Photo by truckdog62563 | Photobucket


As you have found, tires and brakes can quickly make an attractive truck something you run from.....
 
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Originally Posted by Woodsman Rick
The C4TF-AK carb is a Ford (Auto-Lite/Motorcraft) 2100 series 2V
D4AZ-9A586-A (replaced C2AZ-9A586-B) .. 2100 Series 2V Carburetor Kit (Motorcraft CT-499-D) / Available from Ford & all auto parts stores.

Applications: 1962/74 Passenger Cars/Trucks; 1966/74 Bronco & 1969/74 Econoline.
 
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That truck is dead to the OP. Widowmakers killed the deal.
 
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One more time

Originally Posted by 85e150six4mtod
That truck is dead to the OP. Widowmakers killed the deal.
Turns out the rims are not the widow makers. They are split-rims, but are Type M and not the RH-5º.

So, I'm going to make a 4-500 mile trip to see, drive and all is well, perhaps purchase.
 


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