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Old 07-08-2015, 05:45 AM
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I welded plugs into the EGR cooler and also have a straight pipe installed. I would hang onto your CC for the just in case you move to an area that really looks at it in the future. Just don't do anything that will keep you from getting it back into compliance if needed.
 
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So I've been doing some research and I don't think I'll delete the egr but I will get a custom tuner to "turn it off". Also just upgrade the cooling system and stud the heads. Do yall have any other suggestions?
 
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Old 07-08-2015, 08:21 AM
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DPF Question 07 6.0

Sounds like a plan but just turning the egr off won't solve any potential problems You'll still be sending exhaust through your intake and the original WILL FAIL.. Make sure you have updated turbo feed line and drain, standpipes, dummy plugs, and upgrade the alternator to a high output unit and you should be good to go oh and don't forget the blue spring. I would while doing the head studs put in a bpd egr gooler while its apart if you're no5 going to delete it. Run racor or motorcraft filters only, run 5w40 synthetic oil, and do 5he maintenance religiously and she'll keep you happy.
 
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Ok...now I'm really going to sound like a newbe...but what are the dummy plugs and the blue spring for?
 
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Old 07-08-2015, 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by KDAVID1
Sounds like a plan but just turning the egr off won't solve any potential problems You'll still be sending exhaust through your intake and the original WILL FAIL..
I completely disagree here. Modified injectors, bigger turbo, custom tuning and not only did I have the emissions system fully functional, but it was the original system when I took possession of the truck with 20 miles on the clock. It had well over 200k when I traded it in.

Statistically speaking, if the EGR system is as horrible as "it will fail", my experience should not exist period. Especially considering I also had one of the worst years for the EGR cooler.

I also never had the blue spring in my truck.

Now, I'm not saying that it won't fail or won't fail with the OP, I don't know enough of the OP's driving proclivities, but I whole hardily disagree that it "will fail". My experience tells me differently and my truck was more extensively modified then what the OP is talking about doing and probably more so then what the majority of owners do (at least 51% of the owners anyway).
 
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By the way...my truck is 100% stock right now and has 173k miles
 
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Old 07-08-2015, 10:02 AM
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DPF Question 07 6.0

You were lucky-if yours wasn't an older version.
 
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Originally Posted by KDAVID1
You were lucky
I'm not the only one that hasn't had a problem with the EGR system. Now more people probably have then have not, due to the timing of this "new" technology coming out and not many people understanding the ramifications of said technology. Especially if they were coming from what you used to be able to do with diesels.

Then you had the techs early on not knowing how to diagnose such issues just compounded the problem.

However, just how lucky do you think I had to be to have have this kind of outcome? Most people suspect that this system is flawed on a stock truck. I had a truck putting down 508HP at the rear wheels (all 4 of them). That takes a lot of input to produce that type of output. Seriously what are the odds? 9 yrs. well over 200k on the clock.

Especially considering that my 2014 hasn't been quite as kind to me and a lot more people think it's a solid truck compared to the 6.0.
 
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I've just come to the realization that any time a new motor is produced with new technology (i.e. emissions) there will always be hick ups.
 
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I would say very but the power you produced has nothing to do with fail no fail on egr cooler. You obviously kept up with coolant changes and all regular maintenance sorry for tge hijack OP. Juet trying to give you knowledge. On another note--curious the issues you are having with you 14'
 
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Originally Posted by bankspro6811
I've just come to the realization that any time a new motor is produced with new technology (i.e. emissions) there will always be hick ups.

Technically speaking, the emissions that are on the 6.0 aren't new. EGR valves have been around a long time. Their interaction with diesel fuel is where the newness comes in. Now you get to the 6.4 and the 6.7, that's a different story.

My woes on the 6.7 though aren't emissions related. Not yet anyway.
 
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Originally Posted by KDAVID1
I would say very but the power you produced has nothing to do with fail no fail on egr cooler. You obviously kept up with coolant changes and all regular maintenance sorry for tge hijack OP. Juet trying to give you knowledge. On another note--curious the issues you are having with you 14'
It affects in great deal the EGR valve. More power, typically means more fuel. More fuel running through the EGR, more chances of gumming up. Gummed up EGR valve means valve is stuck. Valve is stuck means not good for you.

The point of him getting the tuner was to take care of the valve and it's operation.
 
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Old 07-08-2015, 10:39 AM
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I greatly appreciate all of the information. I am just trying to decide which route would be the best for my trucks reliability. To get the egr delete or just "turn it off" with a tuner.

If the egr will get gummed up regardless then it makes more since to take it out all together to avoid future problems.
 
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Originally Posted by bankspro6811
I greatly appreciate all of the information. I am just trying to decide which route would be the best for my trucks reliability. To get the egr delete or just "turn it off" with a tuner.

If the egr will get gummed up regardless then it makes more since to take it out all together to avoid future problems.
No, the EGR will not get gummed up regardless. If it would, then I would be singing a different tune. If you use this truck as a grocery getter, short trips, barely get it up to operating temp, let it idle for extensive time periods without a high idle circuit installed, then your chances of it getting gummed up increase.

Due to how people were using this truck when it first come up as grocery getters and not using it for work (for which it was designed for), that would go a long way to explaining that.

If that is your driving situation, then I would suggest making a point of taking it on a good "road trip" and help clear out the deposits that build up in the EGR valve.

Make no mistake removing the EGR is illegal period, regardless of emissions testing in your area for diesel (or gas) or not (common misconception). So that can lead to other concerns there. Do not infer my stance as far as emissions are good/bad etc. I'm in no way implying my thoughts are the viability (or lack thereof) of such programs.

Working with an EGR system on a diesel is no big deal, some people just are too lazy, don't like it or any other myriad other "reasons" don't want to deal with it.
 
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Old 07-08-2015, 10:59 AM
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Ok...thank you for the great information Tex! I haul my boat every weekend so I should be good.
 


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