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Worth a Transmision Pan Upgrade?

well I been wanting to change my trans fluid and filter on my 99 e350 7.3 turbo with a auto 4r100. only problem is I have one with out a drain plug in the pan. next month I am going to have the trans serviced and was wondering if I should get a Moroso 42050 Transmission Pan for Ford E40D/4R100. that way it will not only be where I can service it myself, it will help keep trans cooler.


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Amazon.com: Moroso 42050 Transmission Pan for Ford E40D/4R100: Automotive Amazon.com: Moroso 42050 Transmission Pan for Ford E40D/4R100: Automotive
 
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Ford should or might have an updated trans pan that includes a drain plug, should be considerably cheaper than the Moroso version. Keep in mind Moroso stuff is more related to racing situations than street or towing applications, the price showing that. Try this as an example:
http://www.amazon.com/Dorman-265-805-Transmission-Oil-Pan/dp/B002XIGOG6/ref=pd_sim_sbs_263_7?ie=UTF8&refRID=0537ZRV0FVNGD6P8QB6K http://www.amazon.com/Dorman-265-805-Transmission-Oil-Pan/dp/B002XIGOG6/ref=pd_sim_sbs_263_7?ie=UTF8&refRID=0537ZRV0FVNGD6P8QB6K

That pan won't really give you significant extra cooling so the cost isn't worth it from that aspect. It would also require another type internal filter due it being deeper than the stock pan.

Assuming the factory cooling path is clear and operating as designed it should be more than sufficient for most daily driving and towing uses. Ford also makes an auxiliary cooler that can be added easily enough, assuming you're up on such retro-fitting. Here's Mark Kovolsky's opinion on auxiliary coolers: https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...ns-cooler.html

Another thought is "if it ain't broke, don't fix it.............". BTW you could also ask this same question in the Transmission Forum, hopefully Mark Kovolsky, our resident former Ford transmission engineer, will give some sage advice.

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Old 07-06-2015, 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by AliceSML79
it will help keep trans cooler.
No, it will not keep the trans cooler. If you want the trans cooler, get a better transmission cooler. A pan won't do that for you.
 
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will the dorman fit becase amazon.com say it dosent. but that's all im really wanting is a drain plug.


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You can buy a Ford pan at the dealer that has a drain plug. And it will fit.
 
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Originally Posted by Mark Kovalsky
You can buy a Ford pan at the dealer that has a drain plug. And it will fit.
Yep---that would be my first and only choice.

However I added my own drain plug using a few aftermarket components, the cost and aggravation installing them probably a bit more than a replacement pan. My motivation was using and older and in theory slightly better/thicker pan plus knowing my drain system was top notch in quality. It should be noted more often than not I'm one to use overkill as part of such things.
 
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You can easily install a drain plug in your pan, takes all of 5 minutes (if that long) to do. I did mine last time I changed the fluid and filter. Just about any parts house has the kit for this. Lot cheaper than a new pan from Ford.
 
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In the linked arrival on coolers, the suggestion is using a cooler from a 6.0....is that the 6.0 Diesel???
 
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Yes it is.
 
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Good copy.
I had an 03 about a year and by far that trans was the best I've driven.
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since im going to have a shop do my service since I have no ramps or jack stands, they wont mod the pan I have now. that's why I am looking at the
Amazon.com: Dorman 265-805 Transmission Oil Pan: Automotive Amazon.com: Dorman 265-805 Transmission Oil Pan: Automotive
. just want make sure it fits my 4r100 before I buy it, and for some reason amazon says it dosent fit, but dose say its for a 4r100. so that's why im dubble checking here first. or should I just buy from http://www.jegs.com/i/Dorman+Products/326/265-813/10002/-1 or http://www.summitracing.com/parts/rnb-265-805/overview/.


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You need a ramp or stands to get under an E350???

How about stacking some 2x8s?



If the transmission will be serviced by a shop, why bother with a drain?

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Originally Posted by AliceSML79
since im going to have a shop do my service since I have no ramps or jack stands, they wont mod the pan I have now. that's why I am looking at the Amazon.com: Dorman 265-805 Transmission Oil Pan: Automotive. just want make sure it fits my 4r100 before I buy it, and for some reason amazon says it dosent fit, but dose say its for a 4r100. so that's why im dubble checking here first. or should I just buy from Dorman Products 265-813, | Dorman Products or http://www.summitracing.com/parts/rnb-265-805/overview/.


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I didn't realize you could buy a new pan so cheap. I'd buy from Summit before Amazon. I think it's easier to return it to Summit if there's something wrong. Most of what Amazon sells is "left over stock" that cannot be returned.
 
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Originally Posted by tabijan
You need a ramp or stands to get under an E350???

How about stacking some 2x8s?



If the transmission will be serviced by a shop, why bother with a drain?

Sixto
93 E150 Chateau 5.8 190K miles
I built a set of ramps for my 99 F250 but used 3/4" plywood and 2x8's (treated) and in two sections (24" long box and a 30" long ramp) Yours needs a stop in the front to avoid "over shootin the runway" Nobody makes ramps that can handle the weight the diesels have up front.
 
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Those aren't mine. I found the picture on the internet to clarify.

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