Okay im timing my 292 and im doing it by the book, i have a mild isky cam replacing the stock cam... while lining the marks up the valves dont seem to be right. Are the valves suppose to be in the middle of opening and closing when the marks are lined up?

They are both pointed to the right with 12 link pins in between

 

Needing some help fast, idk if this cam needs to be in a different position or not being tho its not stock

 

Post photos. Sounds like you installed a cam and are having trouble with the timing marks on the timing gears, if I am reading this correctly.

 

Sounds like you're doing it right. Both at 3 o'clock, 12 pins, etc.

Never actually done this, but not sure what you're asking exactly, there are always valves opening and closing (obviously) - but, there are two revolutions of the crankshaft required to complete one iteration through the engine, so make certain for example when TDC on #1 cylinder after the compression stroke both valves will be closed, the distributor is lined up to #1, etc.

Should be able to follow the firing order as the crank is turned 1/4 rotation through each of the cylinders and watch for proper valve action throughout?

 

Ik im doing it by the book but its hard to explain, so i have both marks at the proper location... i have the valve cover off the passenger side as that is what the book is saying the #1 cylinder is located. When the marks are in the proper location the valves at #1 are in the process of switching from intake to exhaust...

Always thought #1 would be the closest cylinder toward you and that side is on the driver side. Am i reference #1 on the wrong side?

 

#1 Y block cylinder is the forward most, passenger side. The book is correct there.

I don't see where the valves particular position "matters" insofar it is what it is, when the timing set marks are aligned at 3 o'****. I mean it matters but unless it's completely different than before?

Just get everything set up and walk it through two revolutions of the crankshaft - in firing order 15486372 and observe that each intake opens when it should, exhaust closes when it should, both valves closed on compression, etc etc. That's what matters.

 

# 1 on the passenger side is where Ford put it. It does not really matter where you think it should go.
That sounds Right.

That means it's on the compression stroke. The cam key should be at about 7 Oclock with the cam and crank dots at about 3 O clock with 12 links between...both valves closed....sounds good to me.

I thought about this some and I can see whats confusing you. I think you are looking at as if both wheels are the same size. The crank spins much faster than the cam.

You can always check it by placing your finger in the spark plug hole and spinning it over by hand. Make sure all the plugs are out. When you fell the pressure...check your mark. I bet it will be back where you are now.

Fords V8 1234 on passenger.....5678 on drivers side. 1 & 5 are the front cylinders.

 

Just make sure that when you have the dampner back on and set at top dead center by the marks on the dampner that both valves are closed on #1

 

Alright thanks guys! I really appreciate the help! Maybe i was looking to far into it but i spent quite a bit of money to just have it grenade on start up

 

So you could be saying that the timing marks on the timing chain gear doesnt necessarily mean that its at top dead center when lining those marks up, it will go to tdc when doing ignition timing

 

Don't know for sure but it is a possibility. Every other motor I have rebuilt in my life you put the chain on and line the marks up on the gears and bolt them down. The Y that I built I would have done it the same way except I read the shop manual first and I just scratched my head when I read how to do it. I did it that way and low and behold it worked. Go figure. But then again the firing order and the cylinder numbering is all messed up to.

 

This is also the reason that the valves of #1 are in overlap with the dots in the correct position. #6 should be on compression in that same position.

At the tdc indication on the damper, either #1 or #6 will be at tdc of compression.

 

Thank you! So when the dots are aligned correctly the valves are overlapping and its not at tdc, you cleared it all up for me and i really appreciate the help! I didnt want to start it up and have all my hard work go to waste

 

Can't argue with that. What is so great about the online forums, can tap into a huge tech knowledge base 24/7 that goes back for years.

 

I cant thank you guys enough!!! I dont want anything to happen to my pride and joy