Excursion - King of SUVs 2000 - 2005 Ford Excursion
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

A/C headache

  #1  
Old 06-28-2015, 11:17 PM
Bananarama's Avatar
Bananarama
Bananarama is offline
Tuned
Thread Starter
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 322
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
A/C headache


I'm at whits end. Ac is leaking where the 2 lines go into the condenser. I went to Ford and bought OEM o-rings thinking it would be an easy fix. HA! New o-rings were put in by a mom and pop garage. Still leaking. Guy said it wasn't, but with my uv light I could clearly see the dye. Went to a recommended guy. He took it apart, cleaned the hoses where the o-rings sit. They were kinda dirty from leakage and stuff so he cleaned them up with a wire brush and 2000 grit. Recharged, and we both looked with his huge uv light. Bad condenser, drivers side lit up like a night light. Replaced the condenser with an aftermarket condenser. Recharged, STILL LEAKING from where the hoses go into the condenser. Vacuumed down the system... Removed hoses, checked o-ring fit. They are snug on the hoses and have some resistance when plunging the hoses back in. STILL LEAKING Albeit much less. Has anyone run into this? What gives? I'm 360.00 into this this week...

Evil flange!!
 

Last edited by Bananarama; 06-28-2015 at 11:19 PM. Reason: Photos
  #2  
Old 06-28-2015, 11:22 PM
Bananarama's Avatar
Bananarama
Bananarama is offline
Tuned
Thread Starter
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 322
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I'm about ready to try and double o-ring each hose... If it's possible!
 
  #3  
Old 06-29-2015, 06:27 AM
projectSHO89's Avatar
projectSHO89
projectSHO89 is online now
Hotshot
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: St Louis
Posts: 19,338
Likes: 0
Received 869 Likes on 721 Posts
Replace the hose with the leaking fitting.
 
  #4  
Old 06-29-2015, 06:34 AM
1 Excursion camper's Avatar
1 Excursion camper
1 Excursion camper is offline
Cargo Master
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: chicago northwest suburbs
Posts: 2,097
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
What kind of car?
 
  #5  
Old 06-29-2015, 08:19 AM
Bananarama's Avatar
Bananarama
Bananarama is offline
Tuned
Thread Starter
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 322
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
It's a 2000 excursion...6.8. I guess I could replaces both hoses next. I was going to try to double o-ring them... Is that even possible?
 
  #6  
Old 06-29-2015, 08:50 AM
05MilMachine's Avatar
05MilMachine
05MilMachine is offline
Cargo Master
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: North Texas
Posts: 2,066
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
I was going to suggest the double oring trick if they fit, that failed I would replace the hose.
 
  #7  
Old 06-29-2015, 08:54 AM
Bananarama's Avatar
Bananarama
Bananarama is offline
Tuned
Thread Starter
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 322
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Just got off the phone- hose from condenser to dryer is no longer available. Argh!
 
  #8  
Old 06-29-2015, 01:02 PM
projectSHO89's Avatar
projectSHO89
projectSHO89 is online now
Hotshot
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: St Louis
Posts: 19,338
Likes: 0
Received 869 Likes on 721 Posts
If you told them that's what you wanted, no wonder they told you it wasn't available. There's not supposed to be a hose that goes just from the condenser to the "dryer".

You should have a suction/discharge manifold/hose assembly which goes from the compressor to both the condenser and to the accumulator (Motorcraft YF3091) plus a liquid line of which there are two versions: YF3038 (w/out aux AC) or the YF3094 (W/aux AC).

All appear to be available both from Ford or aftermarket (4 Seasons).
 
  #9  
Old 06-30-2015, 12:04 AM
Bananarama's Avatar
Bananarama
Bananarama is offline
Tuned
Thread Starter
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 322
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
The one from the compressor is available- the other.. Discontinued. At any rate, get this, went to the mom and pop, we used a sniffer. It picked up the scent. He pulled it apart again and was going to put 2 orings on. He decided to just try one more time before doing something silly he said. Wellllllll after 45 mins.. No leak... After 3 hours no leak. Beyond frustrated. Maybe the gremlin left!
 
  #10  
Old 07-11-2015, 12:59 AM
Bananarama's Avatar
Bananarama
Bananarama is offline
Tuned
Thread Starter
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 322
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I could just cry. Seriously. So, we got the condenser replaced, fixed the leak at the condense manifold, than the compressor seal let go. Brought the ex back to the guys who fixed the condenser. He says 395.00 compressor and new accumulator, come Friday. I did. Replaced compressor no problem. The accumulator? Should have never been cracked open. After 12 hours and getting ford o-rings, the thing is still leaking at the union that screws together. Not just a little leak, I mean oil is dripping out of it. I can't win. Why is this union flange leaking!? Has anyone had any similar issue with an aftermarket accumulator? I drive this truck all day for my new job, I need ac here in SC...
 
  #11  
Old 07-11-2015, 02:11 AM
Bananarama's Avatar
Bananarama
Bananarama is offline
Tuned
Thread Starter
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 322
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I'm beside myself with this ac!!
 
  #12  
Old 07-11-2015, 03:32 AM
Apocalypse's Avatar
Apocalypse
Apocalypse is offline
Lead Driver
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Salem, VA
Posts: 8,300
Received 22 Likes on 21 Posts
At this point I would either take it to Ford or just a really good AC shop and be done with it.
 
  #13  
Old 07-11-2015, 03:44 AM
Bananarama's Avatar
Bananarama
Bananarama is offline
Tuned
Thread Starter
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 322
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Apocalypse, this is a recommended AC shop.



Here's the union that's giving me the goose!
 
  #14  
Old 07-11-2015, 10:55 AM
7.3Excursion4x4's Avatar
7.3Excursion4x4
7.3Excursion4x4 is offline
Senior User
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 311
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally Posted by Bananarama
Just got off the phone- hose from condenser to dryer is no longer available. Argh!
Look up a hydraulic shop in your area, they can make them for less than $50 each probably.
 
  #15  
Old 07-11-2015, 12:37 PM
Bananarama's Avatar
Bananarama
Bananarama is offline
Tuned
Thread Starter
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 322
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I think the hoses are ok. They are not damaged or scored.

Ok. Ford Accumulator purchased and installed. Aftermarket torn out and thrown on the floor. New ford o-rings installed on every fitting but the main flange on the accumulator because they don't have one in stock and it's no longer available but that's ok... It did not leak from there before. Sucking the system down and hopefully when we charge it... NO LEAKS!



Crossing fingers!
 

Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Quick Reply: A/C headache



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:35 PM.