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Solid Lifters? Lincoln 460

Hey guysss! I have a Lincoln 1976 460 that came stock with solid lifters. Now my question is, does solid lifters produce more horsepower than hydraulic lifters? I know hydraulic lifters last longer though. I am running these lifters with either D3VE-A2A, or D8VE-A2A heads. I can't tell if the number is an 8, or 3 on my head. Also, what would be the perfect camshaft for these solid lifters for a very high moderate street performance motor?
 
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Hey guys! I have a Lincoln 1976 460 that came stock with solid lifters (no such thing!).

I am running these lifters with D3VE-A2A .. or D8VE-A2A heads.
No such thing as D8VE heads, they're D3VE heads.

No 460 in Passenger Cars, Trucks or Econolines came with solid lifters.

D9HZ-6500-A (replaced C2OZ-6500-A & B & C - D1AZ-6500-A) .. Hydraulic Lifter.

429/460 applications: 1968/73 Ford/Merc Passenger Car 429 (except 1970/71 429 HiPo that came with solid lifters) / 1968/78 Lincoln/Continental Mark III/IV/V 460.

1972/76 Thunderbird 460 / 1973/79 F100/350 460 / 1975/97 E250/350 460 / 1982/97 F250/350 460.

And: 1979/96 600 and larger series trucks with 370 & 429.

Block casting number: D1VE-AB - A1B - A2B = 1971/73 429 (except 1971 CJ & S/CJ) / 1971/78 460 / 1979 460 with internal balance.
 
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The motor came out of a 1977 Lincoln Continental, as so it says by it's casting number. Also, whenever I tore the block apart the lifters where flat tappet with no hydraulic resistant whenever pressure was applied as if they were solid. Do I have a HiPo motor? Thanks +NumberDummy!
 
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Solid lifters are just that. They have no piston to take up slack and quiet down lifter noise, and they require frequent adjustment. That's why no production vehicles I know of have used them since the early 70's. And then only serious factory hot rods. It seems unlikely you have solid lifters in a Lincoln. A mild 460 can make 400hp easily.
 
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Looking at the top of the lifter, if there is a hole in the pushrod depression and a small lock ring holding the internals in, its hydraulic. Solid lifters are just single round chunks of steel, no circlip.
 
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Originally Posted by BigBlocker0248
The motor came out of a 1977 Lincoln Continental, as so it says by its casting number.
1971/73 429's (except 1971 HiPo's); 1971/78 460's, some 1979 460's have the same block casting number.

Makes no difference if the 460 is in a car (1971/78), F100/350 (1973/79) or Econoline (1975/79).
 
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Well thanks for the info +spdcat72, +Ford-Six and +NumberDummy! I just found out that they are hydraulic lifters. They must be pumped full of oil, or "pumped up." I was able to press them in a little. Now I know they make "Anti-Pump Up" Lifters so would a stock 460 come with those? And also, are "Anti-Pump Up" lifters better than hydraulic lifters?
 
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STOP and think about what you're planning to do. It's obvious that you have little mechanical experience since you couldn't tell a hydraulic lifter from a mechanical tappet.

It's the same 'ol story, I've seen dozens of threads like yours.

's show up with an old truck, it may be nice, it may be a rusty old rolling pile of miseries. But some don't care and are only interested in building a MEGA HP engine.

The thread goes on and on, page after page, with dozens of responses. But sooner or later, most of the OP's vanish like pharts in the wind, when they realize what the cost factors are.
 
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I understand this +NumberDummy! Personally, I do have intermediate mechanical experience (I know how to build a stock motor), but I want to try something out new and build one with higher standards. I understand the cost trust me I've priced ranged parts, but this is a hobby truck and I have nothing, but time my friend. That's why I want my motor built with the best and most accurate parts, also so I can gain knowledge in building motors. Also, I do know the difference between them. I just got confused whenever I couldn't compress them, but it was dark and I couldn't see the small lock rings whenever I tore the motor apart.
 
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