2017 Info....post it here as you find it
#1
2017 Info....post it here as you find it
Since there is so much info floating around, I thought it would be great to have a thread to post our 2017 info as we find it. Not the possibly photoshopped spy shots of the truck, but real info. I found this on TFL Truck:
Next Generation Ford Super Duty to Get Seven Cameras; F-150 Gets Five [News] - Truck News, Views and Real World Reviews
If you find info posted on sites, drop a link in here if you'd be so kind.....even if you post somewhere else on FTE.
Next Generation Ford Super Duty to Get Seven Cameras; F-150 Gets Five [News] - Truck News, Views and Real World Reviews
If you find info posted on sites, drop a link in here if you'd be so kind.....even if you post somewhere else on FTE.
#4
I just wish they'd come out with a larger displacement gas engine as an option again. I really liked my choices back in the early 2000's. GM 8.1, Ford V10, and Ram V10. I had a Ram V10 and it was a monster gas engine to pull with. Then a Ford V10 in 09 as Ram and GM dumped their larger gassers. I just don't like going as small as possible then turboing or supercharging to get the numbers up. I'd rather have something big with big numbers to start. Hell, then you could supercharge that if you wanted to later on...
#6
A sighting but with a 2018 twist. My post in the thread give my take on it...
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...hristi-tx.html
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...hristi-tx.html
#7
As strange as this may sound, I had a conversation with a guy who worked on the interior design team for the new SD.
The conversation was back in 14' when I was asking about a redesign date. He told me then that Ford was pushing the truck launch from 16' to 17', and it would be awhile..
That turned out to be true.
He also told me that there would be a new, ground up complete redesign to happen again in 19'.
Made absolutely no sense to me, and I never posted it because I didn't want to post unproven conjecture, and feed the trolls.
So, with the new Cafe standards fast approaching, it may be an actual possibility that a further lightened, redesigned model may show. Still makes little sense.
Put this in the " for what it's worth" catagory.
Time will tell.
The conversation was back in 14' when I was asking about a redesign date. He told me then that Ford was pushing the truck launch from 16' to 17', and it would be awhile..
That turned out to be true.
He also told me that there would be a new, ground up complete redesign to happen again in 19'.
Made absolutely no sense to me, and I never posted it because I didn't want to post unproven conjecture, and feed the trolls.
So, with the new Cafe standards fast approaching, it may be an actual possibility that a further lightened, redesigned model may show. Still makes little sense.
Put this in the " for what it's worth" catagory.
Time will tell.
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#8
Just look at all the changes that the F-150's have gone through since the 2009 launch.
Same engines as the 2004-2008 gen but with a new trans.
2011 introduced all new engines.
2015 dropped two engines, introduced two new ones and with a totally new body but with the same six speed trans.
2017 the new 10 speed trans is supposedly coming as a joint venture with GM.
Ford is busy as bees trying to find the perfect combination. They'll get it.
Same engines as the 2004-2008 gen but with a new trans.
2011 introduced all new engines.
2015 dropped two engines, introduced two new ones and with a totally new body but with the same six speed trans.
2017 the new 10 speed trans is supposedly coming as a joint venture with GM.
Ford is busy as bees trying to find the perfect combination. They'll get it.
#10
If you stop that video at the 12 second mark you can easily see that the wrap has been extended to meet the headache rack and is not an extension of the truck cab. Check out the roof line and you can see the roll of the rear of the cab under the wrap. The wrap also looks to flare out and upward to meet the flatbed and headache rack.
#11
A further point of fact in reference to jonrjen's observation immediately above:
Ford's Body Builder Advisory Service strongly recommends that there be a minimum of 3" clearance behind the cab, and Ford appears to require this clearance in the second unit body upfit designs to receive Ford Ship Thru approval status.
So, any flat bed headache rack that you see in spy shots with zero clearance between cab and bed is highly likely to be just sacraficial/flexible camo cladding for purposes of distractive disguise.
That Ford is taking such pains to disguise so many crew cab mules as psuedo "mega" cabs is still indirectly informative. If nothing else, the repeated disguise exercise at the very least proves beyond doubt that Ford is very much aware that many consumers are interested in larger "mega" type cabs. That in and of itself may foreshadow a future megacab from Ford, but these spy shots we have been seeing online are not likely to be the real deal. The bed to cab clearances are neither realistic nor recommended by Ford.
Ford's Body Builder Advisory Service strongly recommends that there be a minimum of 3" clearance behind the cab, and Ford appears to require this clearance in the second unit body upfit designs to receive Ford Ship Thru approval status.
So, any flat bed headache rack that you see in spy shots with zero clearance between cab and bed is highly likely to be just sacraficial/flexible camo cladding for purposes of distractive disguise.
That Ford is taking such pains to disguise so many crew cab mules as psuedo "mega" cabs is still indirectly informative. If nothing else, the repeated disguise exercise at the very least proves beyond doubt that Ford is very much aware that many consumers are interested in larger "mega" type cabs. That in and of itself may foreshadow a future megacab from Ford, but these spy shots we have been seeing online are not likely to be the real deal. The bed to cab clearances are neither realistic nor recommended by Ford.
#12
http://media.caranddriver.com/images...s-original.jpg
Found this picture the other day on Google. Back glass is definitely bigger and the cab length appears longer, but it's impossible to tell what is under that rear camouflage. Rear door is also wider and it should be. To me the back seat of the SD is a little cramped.
The new F-150 has more rear leg room than the current SD so Ford should at least be matching the current F-150 for the standard crewcab configuration.
As for the F-450 in the pic, I believe it is a standard crewcab variant and not a MC variant. I'm basing this on the space between the headache rack and the rear edge of the door.
Adam
Found this picture the other day on Google. Back glass is definitely bigger and the cab length appears longer, but it's impossible to tell what is under that rear camouflage. Rear door is also wider and it should be. To me the back seat of the SD is a little cramped.
The new F-150 has more rear leg room than the current SD so Ford should at least be matching the current F-150 for the standard crewcab configuration.
As for the F-450 in the pic, I believe it is a standard crewcab variant and not a MC variant. I'm basing this on the space between the headache rack and the rear edge of the door.
Adam
#13
#14
http://media.caranddriver.com/images...s-original.jpg
Found this picture the other day on Google. Back glass is definitely bigger and the cab length appears longer, but it's impossible to tell what is under that rear camouflage. Rear door is also wider and it should be. To me the back seat of the SD is a little cramped.
The new F-150 has more rear leg room than the current SD so Ford should at least be matching the current F-150 for the standard crewcab configuration.
As for the F-450 in the pic, I believe it is a standard crewcab variant and not a MC variant. I'm basing this on the space between the headache rack and the rear edge of the door.
Adam
Found this picture the other day on Google. Back glass is definitely bigger and the cab length appears longer, but it's impossible to tell what is under that rear camouflage. Rear door is also wider and it should be. To me the back seat of the SD is a little cramped.
The new F-150 has more rear leg room than the current SD so Ford should at least be matching the current F-150 for the standard crewcab configuration.
As for the F-450 in the pic, I believe it is a standard crewcab variant and not a MC variant. I'm basing this on the space between the headache rack and the rear edge of the door.
Adam
Last edited by powerstroke72; 07-22-2015 at 10:42 AM.
#15
The cab to compare the camo'ed prototype to is not the 17 year old outgoing Super Duty cab, but the current year aluminum F150 cab, which is a little bit longer than the outgoing Super Duty cab. Not "megacab" longer, just a little bit longer.
I presented a photo awhile back of the Ford King Ranch photo shoot in front of King Ranch, which represented one of the earlier officially released photos of the new aluminum F150.
I think you'll find that if you replaced the red Super Duty in your comparison with an elevation (side) view of the new aluminum F150 crew cab scaled proportionally to match the camo'ed prototype, you would find parity between the two cabs. The A, B, and C pillars would match, as would the bed to cab junction that you are comparing currently.
I presented a photo awhile back of the Ford King Ranch photo shoot in front of King Ranch, which represented one of the earlier officially released photos of the new aluminum F150.
I think you'll find that if you replaced the red Super Duty in your comparison with an elevation (side) view of the new aluminum F150 crew cab scaled proportionally to match the camo'ed prototype, you would find parity between the two cabs. The A, B, and C pillars would match, as would the bed to cab junction that you are comparing currently.