XXOO Georgie. Oh wait, I thought you had me blocked? LOL.

 

They did not have to retool the plant for that, Rodney. For the F150's retool, the plant didn't even look the same afterwards: http://www.autonews.com/article/2014...ed-f-150-plant

And you can call me whatever you want

 

Additionally, changing a fender line or putting a new interior doesn't cost a few hundred million dollars either.

 

No one said anything about price or factory appearance. How long did it take? That's a real question. I don't know...

And you skipped over the new 6.7 part. I bet that cost a bit and took some time no?

 

"The process took about 10 weeks. " From the linked article.

The 6.7 isn't produced at the Kentucky Truck Plant. They did not have to shut down the Kentucky plant for 10 weeks and spend a few hundred million to retool for a new engine that's produced in Mexico: Ford Ready to Start 6.7-liter Power Stroke V-8 Diesel Production - PickupTrucks.com News

 

Roddie, I'm entertained by clowns.

 

I don't think so.

 

I quoted the wrong post before. I really don't think they did what you said.

 

So if you want to continue to believe that a simple refresh to an existing platform rivals a 10 week long, $843 million retooling investment for an entirely new product without providing any facts like I have, so be it

 

Retooling and updating?
Actually, the pre 15' 6.7l is a pile of junk. The emissions systems was light years ahead of the 100% EGR the Naviastar 6.4l was saddles with, but the new Ford designed engine was a major downgrade.

Yeah, it may be adequate for those who do not tune, but it has poor rail volume, weak rods, serious elevation power issues, uplift pump volume weaknesses, a weak turbo which was a poor design right out of the gate and injectors that are extremely limited.
The average guy will never know the difference, but the 15' and up engine is a totally different animal that is finally worthy of the Ford namesake.

I'll tell you one thing, I just brought home a new GMC 2500HD Denali, and Yukon Denali. I'll have a new Super Duty KR on order when the order banks open. Ford does have a little competition. The cab quietness on the GMC is phenonomal.

 

You off the meds again George or just need another hug? Either way, I'm your huckleberry...

 

Rod, you just like to weirdly Internet fight with people. Why is that?

 

10 weeks to retool is not an assurance of a Q3 release. However, if you go back and read my posts, I never said that guess was wrong. I just pointed out it was a guess. I also have a guess. Neither are worth a hill of horse manure but somehow people get very riled up backing up their guesses on the net. Keyboard warriors as it were.

For me, if it comes out before towing season, I'll order this spring. If it is indeed an August/Sept delivery, I'll wait for the following spring as it's no fun in New England to get a new truck right before the roads go to crap and the salt starts being spread. Either way, I'm happy.

 

George, you've debated more people on in the 2017 section of this board in your short time on FTE than any other member has done on every other section combined. I guess you need to prove something. Most just let you shoot your mouth off and laugh at you. I find joy in giving it back to you.

 

Don't shift the argument and change the conversation.

You're saying that the '11 refresh is on the same scale as the complete redesign in terms of retooling and downtime and I took exception to that -- What I'm telling you is that they are on completely different planes.

Unless you can prove that the '11 refresh required similar levels of retooling and down time like the retooling for the new Super Duty will require, I recommend you stop spewing the word vomit.