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Towed a horse trailer and dumped a bunch of tranny fluid

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Old 08-03-2015, 10:23 AM
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I got to thinking last night, and remembered than I scanned for codes again before I did the test tow. I got a 99, which is EPC circuit failure. ECP is Electric Pressure Control, right? I remembered seeing that that was one of the circuits in the harness that I replaced.



I wonder if I didn't get a good connection when I joined the splices for the circuit. I'll chase that before going after the front seals
 
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Old 08-04-2015, 12:48 AM
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Well, I'm at a loss for what to do. I checked with my voltmeter, and both EPC wires were getting power at the harness. Continuity through my splices were just fine. With the harness plugged in, I checked for continuity in the wires mentioned here as well:
http://www.atraonline.com/manuals/general/tetdv/tetdv-c4k.htm

All of it checks out. I don't know why I'm still getting the EPC code.

I'm tempted to just replace the seal, but I'd prefer not to if the problem is electrical. It's a lot of work, and I don't want to do it for nothing.

Or would a failed EPC / slow flow even cause it the tranny fluid to overheat?
 
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Old 08-04-2015, 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by PapaHepcat
Well, I'm at a loss for what to do. I checked with my voltmeter, and both EPC wires were getting power at the harness. Continuity through my splices were just fine. With the harness plugged in, I checked for continuity in the wires mentioned here as well:
Testing Electronic Transmission—Domestic Vehicles

All of it checks out. I don't know why I'm still getting the EPC code.

I'm tempted to just replace the seal, but I'd prefer not to if the problem is electrical. It's a lot of work, and I don't want to do it for nothing.

Or would a failed EPC / slow flow even cause it the tranny fluid to overheat?
According to my info Code 98/99 can be a KOEO or stored CM code. Are you getting Code 98/99 in the KOEO test? Did you clear the stored codes?
 
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Old 08-04-2015, 10:10 AM
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According to my info Code 98/99 can be a KOEO or stored CM code. Are you getting Code 98/99 in the KOEO test? Did you clear the stored codes?
You're right. I cleared codes this morning and re-scanned. Got an 11, so all clear. Thanks for the reminder. I should've remembered that.

So I'll need to drop it and replace the seal after all. Just like you said in the beginning of this thread. The other things needed doing and I imagine was the initial cause of my problem, but I guess I can't be a lazy slacker after all.
 
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Sorry my prophecy came true...
 
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Better in my driveway than on the side of the road in the middle of nowhere with only a fat horse as my ride home!
 
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I don't know if anyone is following this thread anymore, but for the sake of posterity at least, I have an update...

So I FINALLY finished replacing the front seal. Man, that sucked. I did the o-ring on the pump while I was at it. It was only a couple of bucks more when I ordered the seal. Good thing, because it was leaking as well.

Anyway, so it's all back together now. When I went for a test run, though, it wouldn't shift into third. No codes.

I've read that it could be either the MLPS or 2-3 shift valve.

I lean toward the MLPS because I rinsed the tranny housing while it was out - there was old leak-sludge everywhere. I covered it up, but maybe I got water in the sensor. And it shifted into 3rd just fine before.

But since there's no codes, it could be the 2-3 valve.


I'm going to order a new MLPS first. I'm done for today, though. Tired of being under the truck.
 
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Thanks for the updates. Sorry to see you still have issues. I would suspect a waterlogged MLPS is your issue. Ford redesigned them around 1995 just because the older design was prone to this. You will most likely need the newer MLPS plug too.
 
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Old 08-29-2015, 11:11 PM
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You've done great so far, these trans can be a handful at times, but they can be made bulletproof, and thanks Randy, it's always a pleasure to read through your contributions. Papa, you might want to consider a shift kit for the trans also, it will help prevent overheating issues and reduce wear, mine has been great so far. The info is on the link in my signature.
 
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Well, I replaced the MLPS and plug. The plug was all shot anyway.

Test drove and still no shift into 3rd. I suppose cleaning the 2-3 valve is next. I'm rather doubtful it's that, though, since it worked fine before.

I may just retire it. Let it be a farm truck or something. I think I mentioned before that I'm finding a bunch of stuff that the PO didn't take care of well. It's been rather frustrating
 
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