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Old 06-23-2015, 11:26 AM
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F600 firetruck oil problem

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I have a F600 firetruck from 1967. Does anybody know how to stop the oil from leaking down to the front tires?
I opened them but there wasn't really much left. Maybe some rubber?
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Have you tried new seals? I always just packed them with
axle grease with new felt seals. A better seal may be available
today. IDK.
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I actually did try felt seals-but I did them myself...
Axle grease as well.
No luck.
Haven't found anywhere to buy new ones.
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1971 was the 1st year for a F600 4X4 listing. Looks like your axle though. I believe the part number you need was D1TZ3B304A. But none shown on my locators. There should be some axle seals at the end of the housing tubes.
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1971 was the 1st year for a F600 4X4 listing. Looks like your axle though.

I believe the part number you need was D1TZ3B304A
Where did you find this Ford part number?*

But none shown on my locators. There should be some axle seals at the end of the housing tubes.
1971 was the first year that FoMoCo offered factory installed 4WD in F600's.

Previous years were either NAPCO (what this is) or Marmon-Herrington 4WD conversions.

1971/72 F600 4WD with Rockwell/Timken FDS-75-HD-X-1 Front Driving Axle / Parts List #183 listed in the rear axle parts lists.

*There's no 3B304 listed. What is listed (upper pic) are two different 1190's. D1TZ-1190-A is a seal kit; D1TZ-1190-B is an individual seal.

Ford: D1TZ-1190-A = Timken: A-1205-V-1062 // Ford: D1TZ-1190-B = Timken: A-1205-Y-1091

Two parts catalog illustration pics of the front driving axle follow this text pic.
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I found it in the parts list of the parts listed as coming in the "kit" part number D1TZ1190A.
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Oh, thank you for all the answers!
I think it's actually a Ford F602-4x4/3960.
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The fire department here in Finland imported 7 of these F602 models back in the days. I have no idea if the other ones are alive anymore. But, it's definitely a 4x4.
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How COOL is that!?!
Curious though. That's a 66 grille and F600 4X4 wasn't until 1971. You have serial number, axle code,etc off it?
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Curious though. That's a 66 grille and F600 4X4 wasn't until 1971. You have serial number, axle code,etc off it?
It's a NAPCO conversion, but the body (not the front clip) is, AFAIK, European only. What rolling chassis did NAPCO use? When the OP posts the VIN .. then we will know.

This truck is an example of an Open Drive-Away Chassis & Cowl, body style 84. See parts catalog pic of the little charmer at upper left.

And being that it's a NAPCO conversion, will it use the same Rockwell-Timken front driving axle as 1971/72 F600 4WD's? Personally, I doubt it.
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Warranty Plate as originally configured. Due to the 6 digit DSO code, it may or may not take into consideration the NAPCO conversion.

Thru 1969, if the AXLE code contained only 2 digits, it only decodes to the rear axle.

Without the 3rd digit front axle code, the trucks came with the standard equipment front axle. 1966 F600: Ford front axle w/a 5,000 lbs. capacity.

Beginning in 1970, all 500 and larger series trucks have a 3 digit AXLE code, whether they have a standard equipment capacity front axle or not.

F60 = F600 (gas).

C = 330 2V Medium Duty FT engine.

E = Mahwah NJ Assembly Plant.

791390 = 1966 .. assembled December 1965.

156" Wheelbase.

J = Rangoon Red.

F602 = F600 (gas), 22,000 lbs. GVWR

84 = Open Drive-Away Chassis & Cowl (See post 11 ).

A = New Process 435 4 Speed Manual Transmission.

62 = Timken model F106N Single Speed Rear Axle / 6.20-1 / 15,000 lbs. Rear Axle Capacity.

22,000 lbs. Gross Vehicle Weight Rating.

164 net HP @ 3,800 RPM

930923:

93 = Export.

0923 = Domestic Special Order number. The truck was sent out by FoMoCo after it left the assembly line to have something "special" installed that was not an RPO (Regular Production Order).

This could be the NAPCO conversion, but there's no way to find out, as FoMoCo THREW AWAY all the records decades ago.
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Nice truck

I can't help with the oil leak, but by a strange coincidence I have a 2wd version of the same truck.
Are you from Finland and do you know any of the history of these trucks.

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There are pics of two similar firetrucks here on FTE, both are located in the UK

A member of the 1948/56 forum owns one, the other pic was posted in the Large Truck forum.

One of the trucks was purchased in one of the Baltic States (can't recall which), the other was a former US military firetruck, it was possibly purchased in Germany.

May 2002: "She who must be obeyed" and I spent two weeks in London (Radisson Vanderbilt Kensington). Being dumb Americans we didn't realize until we arrived, that Queen Elizabeth was celebrating her 50th anniversary.

Took a one day motorcoach tour to Dover and Canterbury Castle. On the way back, I spotted a similar firetruck, I looked at it, thought what the hell is that thing?
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