Has ford solved the rust issue with newer Superduty
#16
Krown rust prevention, Fluid film, LPS#2 and a sacrificial anode system will keep it good for about 10 years if driven through the crap. Not doing anything it WILL show rust in 1-2 and ROT in 5 if everything's left to the factory spec including that special water holding sponge in the wheel wells???...Other than that I vote Phoenix!
#17
I remember watching a show or some sort of video talking about making vehicles more rust resistant. Maybe it was some video about the new F150 but the engineer said
"I can design a vehicle that wont rust. Will people be willing to pay for it is the true question."
I live in the rust belt and luckily my truck only makes an excursion or two in the winter with it sitting in the garage during most of the winter. I bought it used so it had corrosion starting so I'm only delaying the inevitable.
I drive cheap cars to work and during the winter. I take care of them the best I can but realize they are the "sacrificial anode" for my trucks longevity.
Solutions to rust issue:
Get a winter beater
Move down south
Be VERY proactive with rust preventatives
I was never lucky enough until now to have a "heated" garage so I used to wash my truck all the time in the winter to reduce the effects of the salt. I think I did more harm than good. I swear water worked its way into small paint cracks or chips. This would then freeze and start dislodging the paint opening to the metal to rust. I could be talking out my rear but I think I did more damage washing constantly in the winter. Mainly because I wasn't able to wash in a heated area where the water could dry and not freeze.
With the door rust you likely need to remove the inside panels and spray down into the door. This way the rust preventative can hopefully work its way into those pinch seams. I think I put almost 3/4 of a gallon of fluid film on my truck. Probably over did it.
"I can design a vehicle that wont rust. Will people be willing to pay for it is the true question."
I live in the rust belt and luckily my truck only makes an excursion or two in the winter with it sitting in the garage during most of the winter. I bought it used so it had corrosion starting so I'm only delaying the inevitable.
I drive cheap cars to work and during the winter. I take care of them the best I can but realize they are the "sacrificial anode" for my trucks longevity.
Solutions to rust issue:
Get a winter beater
Move down south
Be VERY proactive with rust preventatives
I was never lucky enough until now to have a "heated" garage so I used to wash my truck all the time in the winter to reduce the effects of the salt. I think I did more harm than good. I swear water worked its way into small paint cracks or chips. This would then freeze and start dislodging the paint opening to the metal to rust. I could be talking out my rear but I think I did more damage washing constantly in the winter. Mainly because I wasn't able to wash in a heated area where the water could dry and not freeze.
With the door rust you likely need to remove the inside panels and spray down into the door. This way the rust preventative can hopefully work its way into those pinch seams. I think I put almost 3/4 of a gallon of fluid film on my truck. Probably over did it.
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#19
I am **** about keeping it clean and touching up rust un the undercarriage. That's why take-off beds sell for $$$ and the aftermarket has replacement parts.
I have had the rear fenders rust through from inside, cab corners rust through, tailgate and lower door seams rust, rear brake backing plates rust through, and the bed support rails collapse from rust. Slam a door hard enough and rust falls out.
The "issue" is bad in the Northeast.
#20
This is definitely a design issue and my biggest complaint with the vehicle.
My 2003 F250 has rust over the wheel wells and along the bottom of the doors. This is in NJ with salty winter roads despite weekly washings to remove/reduce salt.
My truck rusted from the inside-out where multiple layers of steel were sandwiched and not sealed. Ford is using 1970's-era technology.
All of my other vehicles from the past 15 years have had no rust. Ford should address this (if they haven't already).
My 2003 F250 has rust over the wheel wells and along the bottom of the doors. This is in NJ with salty winter roads despite weekly washings to remove/reduce salt.
My truck rusted from the inside-out where multiple layers of steel were sandwiched and not sealed. Ford is using 1970's-era technology.
All of my other vehicles from the past 15 years have had no rust. Ford should address this (if they haven't already).
my 2000 has no rust and was wyoming and washington state (east side where they use road chemicals and salts) with trips to ND in winter. Still no rust.
I do believe a good undercoating and rust proofing beyond the factory would go along ways to prevent some other problems though.
#22
I live in Upstate NY - and my vehicles will usually start to suffer some rust on the underside in 3-4 years. My 'cure' is a good spring pressure wash on the underside. But like many cures, not entirely successful but it does put off the inevitable. Then there is the fact that my truck is seldom driven in the winter - it takes too long for it to warm up to operating temps. That promised new Super Duty aluminum body will probably be a little better but it will still corrode from road chemicals.
After all that about Fords, have you by chance looked at a Dodge of about the same vintage as yours lately? A good friend has an '06 that probably every body panel is either perforated or bubbling and has for at least 2 years and that truck was originally a southern vehicle.
After all that about Fords, have you by chance looked at a Dodge of about the same vintage as yours lately? A good friend has an '06 that probably every body panel is either perforated or bubbling and has for at least 2 years and that truck was originally a southern vehicle.
#24
My dad's 2001 F150 has no rust. He drives it to work every day here in the rust belt. He works in a steel mill which tends to be bad on vehicles. He did drill a couple holes in the cab so that he can spray rust inhibitor in the rockers, cab corners and the bottom of the doors. He is also a big fan of the undercarriage wash at the car wash. My sister's 2 accords rusted out in just a few years, she now drives a 08 Edge, with 160,000 miles and no rust. All she does for upkeep is the automated car wash. Maybe there's something to the undercarriage wash.
#25
Fortunately I live in Florida, where we get more rain than most parts of the US but have no salted roads (we only use salt for our Margaritas, lol ). My 2005 doesn't even show a speck of rust, so being wet and/or water retention in insulated areas must not be the issue as much as introducing salt to the mix.
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#29
I did/do the Krown on my 11. I make sure the technician soaks the hell out of my sponges! So far so good. I also get at the foam with LPS#2 and I avoid that area at all costs when hosing down the undercarriage. Sponge foam in a 4x4 wheel well is asinine! Built in obsolescence or not pure BS. I pay what I pay for these rigs; I dont expect to see rot in 4-5 years. 10 maybe not 4. Especially how **** I am about keeping it clean and serviced. The wheel well liners are on the list before the weather gets bad again. Id pay the extra bux for Henery to install these on the line. Id also pay to delete said sponge from said wheel wells...oy
#30
I'd also hit anything beginning to rust, drive shafts etc. with this...
Duplicolor Rust Fix, Rust Converter, Black, 10.25 oz. Aerosol RF129: Advance Auto Parts
or an equivalent.
Duplicolor Rust Fix, Rust Converter, Black, 10.25 oz. Aerosol RF129: Advance Auto Parts
or an equivalent.