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Old 05-24-2015, 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by mtflat
My 52 F6 originally had a 254 six but has a 360 now:

F6 M 2 LB 10968
10000 gvwr
176" wb
hp: 101@3400
trans: 4 syn
rear: 5.83/8.11
color: M
code: 20B 173
First one from Long Branch
Build Date Feb 20, 1952

So is it Meadow Green?
 
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Not exactly ... interior is red. Exterior is....

 
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BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR another reminder of why I moved to Tennessee.
 
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LOL I'll take the snow over mid-west/coastal humidity. That picture was taken a few years ago, but the truck is still earning its keep. It resides at my son's place - he gets more snow than I do.
 
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OK, here's the info on Betsy.

Frame stamp, glove box plate and Patent Data Plate:
F4 H 1 RH 21107
F4 = F4
H = 226 I6
1 = 1951
21107 = serial number

Cowl stamp:
RH F4 H 2IH 2272
RH = Richmond plant
F4 = F4
H = Silvertone Gray
21H = 21 August / 2,272th vehicle off the line in August, 1951.








 
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here is my 51 f1-i do not have any pictures-there is no stamp on the firewall
my vin# is F1 R1 LU 12915-this number is stamped on my frame and on the plate on the passenger side and on my glove box door-this is also stamped on the glove box door
ENGINE-F1R1LU12915--SERIES F1 MODEL 1RC

F1-BODY TYPE

R-ENGINE 239 v8 100hp

1-YEAR 1951
LU-LOUISVILLE PLANT
12915-12915 th TRUCK OFF THE LINE
ENGINE-LEFT HEAD B212-RIGHT HEAD 32B EAB
TRANSMISSION-12352
REAR AXEL-W41/11 =373:1
 
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Bob, Yours is the first '51 I've seen that came with a 3.73.

Are your head numbers the ones on a tag that was screwed to the molds? I've often wondered if they were date codes. EAB is a '52 and later Car part.
 
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Old 05-29-2015, 06:38 AM
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ROSS,those numbers were on the heads,i sold that engine years ago to a guy in michigan to put in his 9n tractor-i thought that since it already has a 373 rear in it no need to change to something else-as far as a 9 in i thought that these old rears were made real tough so why switch to a 9 in i am 75 now and i am not trying to burn up the streets or be racing anyone-i have done all of that when i was younger the 302 and aod that i have now is just great i am happy with it
 
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Originally Posted by CaptPayne
Ok, here are my 2 as requested.

1952(1) F5 Marmon Herrington

Old style glove box plate
F5R1HM48075
Model R18T




Firewall Stamp (kinda hard to make out, but I think this is what it says)
10HM 21F 115


And the M-H plate is,
chassis R6-4-48075

Looks like it had a Ford of Canada rebuilt motor put into it as there's a data plate behind the coil,
bore .030
mains .010
throw .030
model 08RTB
Engine No 8563

The donor truck 1952 Mercury M6
New style firewall data plate:
SMA81AHP-32003 (matches VIN on frame above steering box)
Trim 14 Paint 22 Model M6



Data plate
Style C2C-81A
Body No 22231
ICCP 1242
then 22 on the bottom (assume paint)



unfortunately The Merc is donating its bones to the Ford, and will be no more.
Just to update
Trim 14 is a code for reorder of interior trim
Color 22- Yosemite Green
 
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Quick update,

Found the frame stamp at the front on the passenger side just behind the radiator cross member.
Looks to match as some of the letters after the F5 are almost non-existant

 
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'51 trim, but N code VIN

Originally Posted by harleymsn
Wayne, I don't know if that is correct. M=December for 1951 models, but there is no M for 1952

Month Codes
1951
A= Jan
B= Feb
C= Mar
D= Apr
E= May
F= Jun
G= July
H= Aug
J= Sept
K= Oct
L= Nov
M= Dec

1952
N= Jan
P= Feb
Q= Mar
R= Apr
S=May
T=Jun
U= Jul
V= Aug
W= Sep
X= Oct
Y= Nov
Z= Dec


Unless of course Ross' truck was built in December 1951. In which case the SU would be SUNDAY!

OK, I have a Merc M-1 (MDA83AHN-30642) that has a 51 styling, but the serial code reads an N for the production date (=January '52). So what does that mean? Were the 51's still built in January 52? I would think they would built 52's by then already...
 
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Originally Posted by Canadian52Merc
OK, I have a Merc M-1 (MDA83AHN-30642) that has a 51 styling, but the serial code reads an N for the production date (=January '52). So what does that mean? Were the 51's still built in January 52? I would think they would built 52's by then already...
Well, we figured that didn't really use that 2nd year coding in the serial numbers, and Ford Canada didn't seem to use it either. From what I have seen, Ford Canada did change the Rating plate sometime around 1951 just as they did here in the US.
The date was never really used in the serial number. Sometime during the 1951 production run they changed the year designation from a number to a letter, in your case the N= 1951, not a month code.
From my database:
1951 F1 BDA83AH51-75xx -notice the low number, (4 digit) very early production.
1951 F3 DFA83AHN-32xxx - Later production 5 digits like yours

So far we have not found any build date codes on the Canadian models.
 
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Old 07-31-2015, 09:58 AM
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Canadian52Merc, I looked at your other (intro) post and obtained the info you posted there.

MDA83AHN-30642
MD = Mercury M3
A = Standard trim level
83 = Pickup 114" WB
A = Stndard cab
H = Home - Windsor
P = 1951

Engine 1EE = 239 cu in V8 / 3 speed heavy Duty Transmission

Paint 24 = Mission Grey

Trim 14 = Red vinyl

MDA83BH51-9597

MD = M1
A = Standard trim
83 = Pickup 114" WB
B = Deluxe cab (note this truck does NOT have the original cab but a 48-50 cab
H = Windsor
51 = 1951

Engine 1E = 239 v8 standard 3 speed

Paint 91 = ? I don't have that one

Trim 13 = Two tone vinyl (deluxe)
So this truck has a different cab (48-50) and a different tailgate (possibly aftermarket)

MDA83BHP-21589

MD = M1
A = standard trim
83 = pickup 114" WB
B = Deluxe cab
H = Windsor
P = 1952

Paint 37 = Coral Flame Red

Trim 13 = Two tone vinyl

The Style code C2C-81B indicates a deluxe cab and chassis.


I would urge you to check the serial numbers stamped in the frames on all 3 trucks to verify, especially the one with the 48-50 cab. On Canadian trucks, the serial number should be on top of the frame rail, drivers side near the steering box.
 
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Does anyone know when the glove box plates style was changed? I thought it was in 51, but my truck was built in August and has the old style plate.


 
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Old 07-31-2015, 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Jolly Roger Joe
Does anyone know when the glove box plates style was changed? I thought it was in 51, but my truck was built in August and has the old style plate.


I had heard that it was a mid September change.
 


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