How do you secure your car seats?
#31
Are your 2 year old's feet cramped facing backwards? My 2 year old faces forwarded and his feet dangle from the car seat. He would be cramped facing backwards. He will have a whole new world in front of him when he faces forwarded. Please double check the weight limit of the infant seat versus your child's weight.
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actually brought this up to the guys at the station last night, I dropped my certs, so I haven't kept up on the latest and greatest.
Anyway, the readers digest version is...Use LATCH or the belt, not both. Use only the supplied LATCH harnesses or the factory belts.(no car seat manufacturer encourages both, and nearly all will state to NOT use both).
Anything that is added/in addition to could possibly cause too much of the force to be transferred to the child...or having two straps could simply put too much stress on the car seat's belt path, causing the plastic to break and folding the munchkin in half(this is actually shown in the video they have).
If they see somebody has installed both, or a otherwise "dual" system, they cannot sign off on the installation.
The 1" of movement quoted previously is also what they confirmed, up to 1" movement due to the various designs of the car seat and vehicle.
Hope that helps
Anyway, the readers digest version is...Use LATCH or the belt, not both. Use only the supplied LATCH harnesses or the factory belts.(no car seat manufacturer encourages both, and nearly all will state to NOT use both).
Anything that is added/in addition to could possibly cause too much of the force to be transferred to the child...or having two straps could simply put too much stress on the car seat's belt path, causing the plastic to break and folding the munchkin in half(this is actually shown in the video they have).
If they see somebody has installed both, or a otherwise "dual" system, they cannot sign off on the installation.
The 1" of movement quoted previously is also what they confirmed, up to 1" movement due to the various designs of the car seat and vehicle.
Hope that helps
Are your 2 year old's feet cramped facing backwards? My 2 year old faces forwarded and his feet dangle from the car seat. He would be cramped facing backwards. He will have a whole new world in front of him when he faces forwarded. Please double check the weight limit of the infant seat versus your child's weight.
#34
My kids are, fortunately, out of car seats with my youngest being 9. We had a mix of cars. My wife usually had LATCH and my old beaters usually not. Putting most of the car seats in/out of non-latch cars really sucked. The stupid seat belt clamp thingy had to be adjusted just right so you could mash the thing into the seat with your bodyweight and just get it to click.
Once I bought a Britax car seat, that was it. They are a little expensive, but they have built in clamps that get them in quick and easy with seat belts or LATCH. Worth it to not have to spend 10 minutes cursing in a rain storm trying to get the stupid thing clamped down. Just lean your knee on the seat, yank the belt and flip the lever to clamp it in place. Done. Sure you still have the pile of Cheerio debris underneath when you remove it for someone to sit there, but at least you're willing to remove it.
Once I bought a Britax car seat, that was it. They are a little expensive, but they have built in clamps that get them in quick and easy with seat belts or LATCH. Worth it to not have to spend 10 minutes cursing in a rain storm trying to get the stupid thing clamped down. Just lean your knee on the seat, yank the belt and flip the lever to clamp it in place. Done. Sure you still have the pile of Cheerio debris underneath when you remove it for someone to sit there, but at least you're willing to remove it.
#39
I hate the way my Graco Nautilus car seat is secured. Even with a seat protector the back part of the car seat digs in the seat bad. My 23 month old is forward facing. I run the rear strap over the seat and secure to the LATCH eye behind the seat and the seat belt holds the seat down. I thought about adding another strap like you did but read that if there is an accident and they find any aftermarket straps or modifications you could be in a legal bind. You would think with an Excursion being a family vehicle Ford would have done something more user friendly for parents and child seats.
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We did have a mat from Graco that we put down on the seat to help protect it a little but I have no idea what happened to it.
We don't use the extra straps anymore and only use the seat belts. After my wife did some research, the straps went away and I had to buy new car seats as well because apparently the seats were now compromised and had to be replaced. I joke around and call my wife the car seat ****.
We don't use the extra straps anymore and only use the seat belts. After my wife did some research, the straps went away and I had to buy new car seats as well because apparently the seats were now compromised and had to be replaced. I joke around and call my wife the car seat ****.
#41
I've got a 4.5 yr old Girl and a 2.5 yr old Boy.
Virginia requires a car seat until 8 years of age... EIGHT.
Thy can practically drive their own car at that point.
We rear faced until 2 years old, then turned the kids around.
Only the wife's minivan (2003 Mazda MPV) has the "LATCH" system. My other vehicles are either too old or too large to have that system. (1986 Mazda RX-7, 1990 Honda Civic Wagon, 2001 Dodge Ram 2500, 2000 Ford Excursion)
Remember, the seatbelt is designed to hold a 200 lb or heavier adult person in the seat in the event of a crash. My kids and their respective seats are significantly less than that. I trust the seatbelts, so long as they're not frayed.
As others have said, put your own weight in the child seat to compress the foam in the Excursion's seats, buckle the seat in with the belt, then pull all the slack out and allow it to retract all the slack back in. I route the seat belts per the child seat manufacturer's recommendations and that's it.
Virginia requires a car seat until 8 years of age... EIGHT.
Thy can practically drive their own car at that point.
We rear faced until 2 years old, then turned the kids around.
Only the wife's minivan (2003 Mazda MPV) has the "LATCH" system. My other vehicles are either too old or too large to have that system. (1986 Mazda RX-7, 1990 Honda Civic Wagon, 2001 Dodge Ram 2500, 2000 Ford Excursion)
Remember, the seatbelt is designed to hold a 200 lb or heavier adult person in the seat in the event of a crash. My kids and their respective seats are significantly less than that. I trust the seatbelts, so long as they're not frayed.
As others have said, put your own weight in the child seat to compress the foam in the Excursion's seats, buckle the seat in with the belt, then pull all the slack out and allow it to retract all the slack back in. I route the seat belts per the child seat manufacturer's recommendations and that's it.
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Rearfacing until 4
Frontfacing until reaches weight capacity
Booster until big enough for the seat belt to fit correctly
We drive A LOT so I feel we are at a higher risk for an accident simply because we are on the road all year round. I want the kids to be secured the best they can 100% of the time.
I have threatened to put my 12 yr old back in a booster seat when he tries to put the shoulder belt behind him the the back seat.
I will be happy when we turn the first one around because it is really hard to get in the 3rd row when you have both captain chairs occupied with rear facing seats.
#43
The way I see it playing out with our kids is
Rearfacing until 4
Frontfacing until reaches weight capacity
Booster until big enough for the seat belt to fit correctly
We drive A LOT so I feel we are at a higher risk for an accident simply because we are on the road all year round. I want the kids to be secured the best they can 100% of the time.
I have threatened to put my 12 yr old back in a booster seat when he tries to put the shoulder belt behind him the the back seat.
I will be happy when we turn the first one around because it is really hard to get in the 3rd row when you have both captain chairs occupied with rear facing seats.
Rearfacing until 4
Frontfacing until reaches weight capacity
Booster until big enough for the seat belt to fit correctly
We drive A LOT so I feel we are at a higher risk for an accident simply because we are on the road all year round. I want the kids to be secured the best they can 100% of the time.
I have threatened to put my 12 yr old back in a booster seat when he tries to put the shoulder belt behind him the the back seat.
I will be happy when we turn the first one around because it is really hard to get in the 3rd row when you have both captain chairs occupied with rear facing seats.
Luckily my youngest is able to sit in a high back booster now because it fits much better in 3rd row of Ex but in our minivan she is still in a 5 point harness seat rated up to 80 lbs.
#44
He is now back in a new front-facing harness'd car seat, along with his sister. I don't give a **** how much they whine, moan, cry, complain, or attempt to 'nastyify' their car seatsv (which I have since caught the middle one doing deliberately, three times), until they meet the weight and/or height requirements, those little turds are staying strapped into their outrageously expensive car seats.
#45
In my daily driver, Mazda 5, our 11 and 9 year old are still in no back boosters in the third row. 6 year old in the middle row in high back booster. It has side curtain air bags. In the EX they are all in the second row usually. 11 year old still in booster, 9 year old in high back booster, 6 year old in middle with 5 point harness. For long tips the get spread out if the third row is usable.