the saga of the rear brake line
#31
It depends on the grade of stainless. I don't consider anything above 400 to be stainless as it does stain and the higher you go it can rust yes. But most any grade below 400 will not rust.
Also yes it can be harder to work with but not impossible. Stainless brakes lines are an aftermarket option. If it were factory they should never have to be touched or replaced so not much worry about flaring them.
Around here in the salt I was replacing steel lines every two years on our trucks, the fluid hadn't had time to collect water it IS the salt that rots them out faster than anything else. Since I have switched all of our trucks to Nicopp we haven't had a line problem yet.
I am shocked to see stainless fuel lines used in many vehicles today but still steel brake lines. They are more worried about a fuel leak than stopping?
Also yes it can be harder to work with but not impossible. Stainless brakes lines are an aftermarket option. If it were factory they should never have to be touched or replaced so not much worry about flaring them.
Around here in the salt I was replacing steel lines every two years on our trucks, the fluid hadn't had time to collect water it IS the salt that rots them out faster than anything else. Since I have switched all of our trucks to Nicopp we haven't had a line problem yet.
I am shocked to see stainless fuel lines used in many vehicles today but still steel brake lines. They are more worried about a fuel leak than stopping?
Using better lines woukd be a tiny cost per car, but brake lines never fail under warranty, and even a tiny cost times hundreds of thousands of vehicles ends up cutting into profit. Most people won't pay more for stainless or nicad lines on a new car and most people don't keep their cars long enough to matter these days.
They switched to stainless fuel lines on a lot of new cars because ethanol is so goddamn corrosive that they were getting warranty claims for fuel systems clogged with fine rust particles! It's an absolute necessity to run e85 like many new vehicles can.
#32
I replaced all my brake lines from master cylinder to all 4 wheels.
Used classic tube for prebent custom stainless steel lines.
I think these guys are where I got them. Fit just like factory.
https://sstubes.com/tin0344
The intermediate which is the long one that goes from front to back is bent in half for shipping. All you do is follow proceedures for unbending and install. Worked great.
Used classic tube for prebent custom stainless steel lines.
I think these guys are where I got them. Fit just like factory.
https://sstubes.com/tin0344
The intermediate which is the long one that goes from front to back is bent in half for shipping. All you do is follow proceedures for unbending and install. Worked great.
#33
Wow, just had this happen to mine two days ago. Fortunately I was not in traffic, just rolled up to a country stop sign and whooosh right to the floor. I was about 80 miles from home with a 2002 Chevy police car on the trailer..glad my trailer brakes are good. Pulled into the parking lot of a closed store and found the line rotted exactly the same as above. Too far to try moving with the loaded trailer with all the hills here on the mountain going home. I wound up cutting the line a few inches from the ABS unit, then took it off, folded the end over and sealed it with my trusty 22 oz. hammer. Put it back on the ABS unit and made it home with front brakes and the trailer brakes. I had a heck of a time finding the right part number, then found this post and confirmed it.
Now I need to see if I can get the union / junction free on the other end of the line. If not, anybody know the part number for that line?
Now I need to see if I can get the union / junction free on the other end of the line. If not, anybody know the part number for that line?
i dont have the numbers for the rest of the rear line pack because it only comes as an assembly from ford thats why i made the rest on my own.
the line from the abs to the rear is also not available any longer so my rear line is made from parts i came up with.
i had pirtek make the small piece of flex line and flared tubes to it. (pirtek is a local hydraulic shop)
the front two lines are the part numbers given
#34
#35
- I think they are for body flex and vibration isolation from the abs unit maybe. I'm not 100% on the that though
#37
Old post here I know but as some have been here how do you get the fitting out of the ABS valve to replace the line? Line wrench wanted to ring the nut so I cut the line and put a 6 point socket with 10" rachet and afraid I am going to tear the unit off the fender well. Truck lived it's first 8 years up around Cleveland so plenty of salt.
05 F250 5.4 4X4 4 wheel disc brakes
05 F250 5.4 4X4 4 wheel disc brakes
#38
[QUOTE=Blue Jay;17344127]Old post here I know but as some have been here how do you get the fitting out of the ABS valve to replace the line? Line wrench wanted to ring the nut so I cut the line and put a 6 point socket with 10" rachet and afraid I am going to tear the unit off the fender well. Truck lived it's first 8 years up around Cleveland so plenty of salt.
05 F250 5.4 4X4 4 wheel disc brakes[/QUOTE
Ok I finally got it to move, several shots of PB blaster and it finally started to move and got it out, now to get the other end and snake this crooked line in place.
05 F250 5.4 4X4 4 wheel disc brakes[/QUOTE
Ok I finally got it to move, several shots of PB blaster and it finally started to move and got it out, now to get the other end and snake this crooked line in place.
#41
#42
Ordered the braided lines from crown today. They also have a kit that is the rear shorties as well, I don't have part number as of yet. They are also making me the short braided sections that go up by the abs unit, have presumably double flare connections on both ends to tie into the hard line. I ordered 6" overall length and they were about $15 each. 1 to connect to 1/4" tube and the other to connect to 3/16" tube. They said the hose itself will be same size for both, just have different size ends on them. I'll post pics when I get them in a week or so.
#43
Ordered the braided lines from crown today. They also have a kit that is the rear shorties as well, I don't have part number as of yet. They are also making me the short braided sections that go up by the abs unit, have presumably double flare connections on both ends to tie into the hard line. I ordered 6" overall length and they were about $15 each. 1 to connect to 1/4" tube and the other to connect to 3/16" tube. They said the hose itself will be same size for both, just have different size ends on them. I'll post pics when I get them in a week or so.
just following up, how did your project turn out?
#44
Well... I got it done. Reused the original abs fittings but went all new everywhere else. I ended up buying the double flare tool that the Irish store rents as I broke my first that I bought from them. Rental was a beefier version. Had to torque the front caliper banjo bolts higher than spec to get them to seal. Front drivers connection between hoses and hard line was a pain and wanted to keep leaking. Tried using a vacuum bleeder before I realized the banjo bolts weren't sealing so I'm pretty sure i sucked air into the abs module. Ended up grabbing a friend to pump the brakes while I bled them after I got all the leaks taken care of. Did the back roads abs "bleed" and then another flush. Overall I'm happy, however I still need to replace all my power steering lines and do a flush of that system and hopefully it firms up the slightly soft beginning on the pedal.
#45
Well... I got it done. Reused the original abs fittings but went all new everywhere else. I ended up buying the double flare tool that the Irish store rents as I broke my first that I bought from them. Rental was a beefier version. Had to torque the front caliper banjo bolts higher than spec to get them to seal. Front drivers connection between hoses and hard line was a pain and wanted to keep leaking. Tried using a vacuum bleeder before I realized the banjo bolts weren't sealing so I'm pretty sure i sucked air into the abs module. Ended up grabbing a friend to pump the brakes while I bled them after I got all the leaks taken care of. Did the back roads abs "bleed" and then another flush. Overall I'm happy, however I still need to replace all my power steering lines and do a flush of that system and hopefully it firms up the slightly soft beginning on the pedal.