Wolf motor oil?
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Randy: Was it Wolf's Head brand? Here's a site you can check out to see if they've tested an oil you are considering:
The Petroleum Quality Institute of America
I See they did test Wolf's Head 15W 40 and it looked like decent stuff...
The Petroleum Quality Institute of America
I See they did test Wolf's Head 15W 40 and it looked like decent stuff...
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Randy: Was it Wolf's Head brand? Here's a site you can check out to see if they've tested an oil you are considering:
The Petroleum Quality Institute of America
I See they did test Wolf's Head 15W 40 and it looked like decent stuff...
The Petroleum Quality Institute of America
I See they did test Wolf's Head 15W 40 and it looked like decent stuff...
He's revealed some interesting stuff to me like... all the alternators that some parts supply houses carry are of second quality.... even though the part may carry a lifetime warranty from say Autozone. Those parts stores are not allowed to even purchase the first tier quality parts, say someone like Ford gets or some fleet supply houses get. They may refer to them as first run or second run. First run are the top quality, perfect tolerance parts, seconds are just that, not as good but still pretty good overall. Probably the reason some parts places offer the "best" at $300 and "good" at $150.
I've been buying my filters there, a handful of parts from him as he is very competitively priced and now possibly oil.
Thanks for the input and that link!
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Using that link Dan posted, Wolf's head brand looks pretty good and a synthetic blend at under $13 a gallon. I really want it in 5W40, but summer is just around the corner, may try this for the summer and then back to 5W40 for the winter. CJ-4 rated, here's the info.
Petroleum Quality Institute of America
Petroleum Quality Institute of America
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Not meaning to come off sarcastic but good lord here we go again.
One question...does the oil have cj-4 on it?
If the answer is yes then buy it, run it, and don't worry about it. This oil thing is a pet peeve of mine because something I want to tell you that is far more important than the label...
HOW YOU CHANGE THE OIL...
This should NOT be determined as an automatic by miles or time only. Rather it should be based on how the machine has been used during that span. Towing a lot up many hills requires a more frequent change of the oil don't you think than the low mileage occasional commuter.
This falls under gas or diesel. If a vehicle is under a high load the oil will break down much faster than the machine that sees light use.
As far as synthetic or non....there is one clear advantage to synthetic. The flow ability at cold temperature. As the ambient temperature is warmer this becomes less of an advantage because the non synthetic starts to pour pretty close to the same.
Think I'm wrong? Put a quart of each in the freezer. Come back in 24 hours open cap and pour. You will see instantly the benefit of synthetic.
Outside of this, possibly the only advantage could be an very minute increase in MPG. I'm not 100 percent sold on that either and in the event it were true the difference would be so minute it might equate to a few dollars over the span of the entire oil change window.
Can some of these companies oil last longer? I suppose. But are these companies testing their oil longevity in your vehicle with your driving style and usage? No.
Change the oil. More frequently if using the machine hard.
Keep it simple and run it.
One question...does the oil have cj-4 on it?
If the answer is yes then buy it, run it, and don't worry about it. This oil thing is a pet peeve of mine because something I want to tell you that is far more important than the label...
HOW YOU CHANGE THE OIL...
This should NOT be determined as an automatic by miles or time only. Rather it should be based on how the machine has been used during that span. Towing a lot up many hills requires a more frequent change of the oil don't you think than the low mileage occasional commuter.
This falls under gas or diesel. If a vehicle is under a high load the oil will break down much faster than the machine that sees light use.
As far as synthetic or non....there is one clear advantage to synthetic. The flow ability at cold temperature. As the ambient temperature is warmer this becomes less of an advantage because the non synthetic starts to pour pretty close to the same.
Think I'm wrong? Put a quart of each in the freezer. Come back in 24 hours open cap and pour. You will see instantly the benefit of synthetic.
Outside of this, possibly the only advantage could be an very minute increase in MPG. I'm not 100 percent sold on that either and in the event it were true the difference would be so minute it might equate to a few dollars over the span of the entire oil change window.
Can some of these companies oil last longer? I suppose. But are these companies testing their oil longevity in your vehicle with your driving style and usage? No.
Change the oil. More frequently if using the machine hard.
Keep it simple and run it.
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Not meaning to come off sarcastic but good lord here we go again.
One question...does the oil have cj-4 on it?
If the answer is yes then buy it, run it, and don't worry about it. This oil thing is a pet peeve of mine because something I want to tell you that is far more important than the label...
HOW YOU CHANGE THE OIL...
This should NOT be determined as an automatic by miles or time only. Rather it should be based on how the machine has been used during that span. Towing a lot up many hills requires a more frequent change of the oil don't you think than the low mileage occasional commuter.
This falls under gas or diesel. If a vehicle is under a high load the oil will break down much faster than the machine that sees light use.
As far as synthetic or non....there is one clear advantage to synthetic. The flow ability at cold temperature. As the ambient temperature is warmer this becomes less of an advantage because the non synthetic starts to pour pretty close to the same.
Think I'm wrong? Put a quart of each in the freezer. Come back in 24 hours open cap and pour. You will see instantly the benefit of synthetic.
Outside of this, possibly the only advantage could be an very minute increase in MPG. I'm not 100 percent sold on that either and in the event it were true the difference would be so minute it might equate to a few dollars over the span of the entire oil change window.
Can some of these companies oil last longer? I suppose. But are these companies testing their oil longevity in your vehicle with your driving style and usage? No.
Change the oil. More frequently if using the machine hard.
Keep it simple and run it.
One question...does the oil have cj-4 on it?
If the answer is yes then buy it, run it, and don't worry about it. This oil thing is a pet peeve of mine because something I want to tell you that is far more important than the label...
HOW YOU CHANGE THE OIL...
This should NOT be determined as an automatic by miles or time only. Rather it should be based on how the machine has been used during that span. Towing a lot up many hills requires a more frequent change of the oil don't you think than the low mileage occasional commuter.
This falls under gas or diesel. If a vehicle is under a high load the oil will break down much faster than the machine that sees light use.
As far as synthetic or non....there is one clear advantage to synthetic. The flow ability at cold temperature. As the ambient temperature is warmer this becomes less of an advantage because the non synthetic starts to pour pretty close to the same.
Think I'm wrong? Put a quart of each in the freezer. Come back in 24 hours open cap and pour. You will see instantly the benefit of synthetic.
Outside of this, possibly the only advantage could be an very minute increase in MPG. I'm not 100 percent sold on that either and in the event it were true the difference would be so minute it might equate to a few dollars over the span of the entire oil change window.
Can some of these companies oil last longer? I suppose. But are these companies testing their oil longevity in your vehicle with your driving style and usage? No.
Change the oil. More frequently if using the machine hard.
Keep it simple and run it.
Randy asked a simple question and I think most gave an honest answer; To his question. This is the kind of post that Oil threads are known for: a whole lot of passion, about what your deal on oil and about changing it is?
You need to do a hell of a lot more research because all CJ4s are not all the same. Some people spend their money on nice wheels and tires and a lift kit. I don't subscribe to that, but I also don't get on every thread that someone asks about wheels or lift kits and say they are just stupid for even wanting one.
Randy asked a simple question. Try to keep that in mind... This wasn't an oil war thread.
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I'm going to have to call you on this rant
Randy asked a simple question and I think most gave an honest answer; To his question. This is the kind of post that Oil threads are known for: a whole lot of passion, about what your deal on oil and about changing it is?
You need to do a hell of a lot more research because all CJ4s are not all the same. Some people spend their money on nice wheels and tires and a lift kit. I don't subscribe to that, but I also don't get on every thread that someone asks about wheels or lift kits and say they are just stupid for even wanting one.
Randy asked a simple question. Try to keep that in mind... This wasn't an oil war thread.
Randy asked a simple question and I think most gave an honest answer; To his question. This is the kind of post that Oil threads are known for: a whole lot of passion, about what your deal on oil and about changing it is?
You need to do a hell of a lot more research because all CJ4s are not all the same. Some people spend their money on nice wheels and tires and a lift kit. I don't subscribe to that, but I also don't get on every thread that someone asks about wheels or lift kits and say they are just stupid for even wanting one.
Randy asked a simple question. Try to keep that in mind... This wasn't an oil war thread.
but when I decide to start telling mythical opinions of oil A being better than oil B...I'll let you know. Thanks and keep calm.
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Not meaning to come off sarcastic but good lord here we go again.
One question...does the oil have cj-4 on it?
If the answer is yes then buy it, run it, and don't worry about it. This oil thing is a pet peeve of mine because something I want to tell you that is far more important than the label...
HOW YOU CHANGE THE OIL...
This should NOT be determined as an automatic by miles or time only. Rather it should be based on how the machine has been used during that span. Towing a lot up many hills requires a more frequent change of the oil don't you think than the low mileage occasional commuter.
This falls under gas or diesel. If a vehicle is under a high load the oil will break down much faster than the machine that sees light use.
As far as synthetic or non....there is one clear advantage to synthetic. The flow ability at cold temperature. As the ambient temperature is warmer this becomes less of an advantage because the non synthetic starts to pour pretty close to the same.
Think I'm wrong? Put a quart of each in the freezer. Come back in 24 hours open cap and pour. You will see instantly the benefit of synthetic.
Outside of this, possibly the only advantage could be an very minute increase in MPG. I'm not 100 percent sold on that either and in the event it were true the difference would be so minute it might equate to a few dollars over the span of the entire oil change window.
Can some of these companies oil last longer? I suppose. But are these companies testing their oil longevity in your vehicle with your driving style and usage? No.
Change the oil. More frequently if using the machine hard.
Keep it simple and run it.
One question...does the oil have cj-4 on it?
If the answer is yes then buy it, run it, and don't worry about it. This oil thing is a pet peeve of mine because something I want to tell you that is far more important than the label...
HOW YOU CHANGE THE OIL...
This should NOT be determined as an automatic by miles or time only. Rather it should be based on how the machine has been used during that span. Towing a lot up many hills requires a more frequent change of the oil don't you think than the low mileage occasional commuter.
This falls under gas or diesel. If a vehicle is under a high load the oil will break down much faster than the machine that sees light use.
As far as synthetic or non....there is one clear advantage to synthetic. The flow ability at cold temperature. As the ambient temperature is warmer this becomes less of an advantage because the non synthetic starts to pour pretty close to the same.
Think I'm wrong? Put a quart of each in the freezer. Come back in 24 hours open cap and pour. You will see instantly the benefit of synthetic.
Outside of this, possibly the only advantage could be an very minute increase in MPG. I'm not 100 percent sold on that either and in the event it were true the difference would be so minute it might equate to a few dollars over the span of the entire oil change window.
Can some of these companies oil last longer? I suppose. But are these companies testing their oil longevity in your vehicle with your driving style and usage? No.
Change the oil. More frequently if using the machine hard.
Keep it simple and run it.
Also - true synthetics can usually withstand higher temperatures and they are generally less volatile and generate less ccv vapors. To each his own on whether or not these characteristics are all that important (personally, I see a value in it).
Lastly, CI4 and CI4+ are acceptable ratings - it doesn't have to be CJ4
Good point on changing it more often when used in severe service. Ford recommendation has always been 7.5k mile OCI in normal service and 5k miles in severe service. With so many people experiencing stiction issues, generally a 5k interval seems common even for regular service.