Luk clutch strength?
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Luk clutch strength?
Hey guys. I know I've been posting a lot lately but I'm about to put a lot of money into this truck and don't wanna miss anything important
I have a Luk clutch and SMF right now that is only about 3 years old and is working great. Does anybody have any experience with how much HP and torque these can take? I would rather keep it since its fairly new and save the money that it would take to upgrade it. I'm gonna have Rosewood 160/80s, T-500, s366 turbo, and interooler and e-fuel. I'm guessing it'll be in the 400hp range from what people are saying. Is that Luk going to hold or not?
Vince
I have a Luk clutch and SMF right now that is only about 3 years old and is working great. Does anybody have any experience with how much HP and torque these can take? I would rather keep it since its fairly new and save the money that it would take to upgrade it. I'm gonna have Rosewood 160/80s, T-500, s366 turbo, and interooler and e-fuel. I'm guessing it'll be in the 400hp range from what people are saying. Is that Luk going to hold or not?
Vince
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LuK Clutches are excellent for stock trucks. I have the exact mods you listed with Tony Wildman tunes, and I have a Kevlar/Ceramic that won't hold the power when I lay into it. With those mods, you may as well figure on a performance clutch. Which one depends on how you are going to use the truck.
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LuK Clutches are excellent for stock trucks. I have the exact mods you listed with Tony Wildman tunes, and I have a Kevlar/Ceramic that won't hold the power when I lay into it. With those mods, you may as well figure on a performance clutch. Which one depends on how you are going to use the truck.
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No problem bud. One thing I can't stress enough about the kevlar/ceramic is follow the break in instructions to the tee! If you don't break that clutch in properly and heat it up too soon, it will never be right. I think that is also part of the problem with mine.......
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I had a dual disk ceramic because I once had big plans, too. Totally un-driveable on the street. No slip whatsoever, truck would hop and jump from a start even in low gear. Forget having a trailer behind it.
I ate that one and upgraded to a dual disk organic, way better street manners and will hold just about any power you will ever put to it. The surface area on the organic disks are unreal.
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I’m running a Luk with a SMF as well. It’s been in the truck around 50,000 miles, and when I just redid the trans it looked great. I have not really romped on it hard towing, but I have been impressed with it to say the least yanking 14-17000lbs around the country last year. In a stock tune, I think it’s more than suitable. In a 80 hp tow tune it’s on the edge, and anything past that with a ton of weight behind you, just forget it, but I have no reason to tow at that power level either. So it has served its purpose very well. When empty I always use 2nd to start from a light. I always thought it would wear much faster doing that… surprised it made it this long.
I agree with Jim. In the future go with a dual organic. I’d run the Luk till she slips, that my plan at least, and then upgrade to a dual disk organic. Only takes a couple hours to do a clutch, might as well get your time out of the one you got in there now and save up for an expensive one.
I agree with Jim. In the future go with a dual organic. I’d run the Luk till she slips, that my plan at least, and then upgrade to a dual disk organic. Only takes a couple hours to do a clutch, might as well get your time out of the one you got in there now and save up for an expensive one.
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I hope you don't plan on driving the truck on the street much, much less tow anything.
I had a dual disk ceramic because I once had big plans, too. Totally un-driveable on the street. No slip whatsoever, truck would hop and jump from a start even in low gear. Forget having a trailer behind it.
I ate that one and upgraded to a dual disk organic, way better street manners and will hold just about any power you will ever put to it. The surface area on the organic disks are unreal.
I had a dual disk ceramic because I once had big plans, too. Totally un-driveable on the street. No slip whatsoever, truck would hop and jump from a start even in low gear. Forget having a trailer behind it.
I ate that one and upgraded to a dual disk organic, way better street manners and will hold just about any power you will ever put to it. The surface area on the organic disks are unreal.
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Was it the solid hub dual disc? I may be wrong, but I didn't think Valair offered the dual disc ceramic with sprung hub discs for the OBS trucks until recently. From what I was told, the sprung hub dual disc ceramic has a lot better street manners than the older solid hub. One of the guys from Valair said that it was really no more aggressive than the kevlar/ceramic. If this isn't true, then I will NOT be putting one in my truck, because my truck tows heavy 80% of the time.
However, I am curious why you'd choose the full ceramic over full organic?
The organic simply is a better all-around clutch in my opinion. The highest rated 'street' clutches we can get for the 6.0 and 6.4 are dual disk organics, and those trucks make nearly double the power the 'ole 7.3's do.
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'04 6.0 E-350 custom 4x4
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'17 6.7 F-250 KR ccsb 4x4
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I've changed clutches so many times in that truck I don't remember specifics. The dual disk ceramic was 3 years ago and very well could have been solid hub, in which case what you said makes sense.
However, I am curious why you'd choose the full ceramic over full organic?
The organic simply is a better all-around clutch in my opinion. The highest rated 'street' clutches we can get for the 6.0 and 6.4 are dual disk organics, and those trucks make nearly double the power the 'ole 7.3's do.
However, I am curious why you'd choose the full ceramic over full organic?
The organic simply is a better all-around clutch in my opinion. The highest rated 'street' clutches we can get for the 6.0 and 6.4 are dual disk organics, and those trucks make nearly double the power the 'ole 7.3's do.
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just threw in a valair clutch rated to 400 hp and 900 tq. It is noticeably stiffer which makes me feel like its gripping harder. I'm still breaking it in though so I haven't pushed it. But it has a weird vibrating noise with the truck idling in neutral with the clutch engaged and goes away as soon as you push the pedal in. Flywheel is resurfaced, pilot and throwout bearing replaced. From reading online, it seems people say this is common and nothing to worry about. Is this true?