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Old 04-24-2015, 07:35 AM
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Possible CL find. AC Question

Does this look like a unit that might fit my 72 f100 base model? It looks like it could be a dealer add on like the ones on this page Installing a Factory A/C Unit- FORDification.com

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I had been given a early model 60's ac unit that looks like the one in (fig. 9) in the Ford link in my 71 truck and while trying to installing it the blower motor hit the something like thee wiper motor or a bracket, can't remember now as it was back in the late 70's

So this could be an issues if it's for a early 60's truck. May be try fitment before buying if you can.
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Thanks Orich. Does it look like it's missing any parts?
 
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Hmm the dryer and more hoses.
But the dryer should be replaced any way. Remember this is a r-12 system.
Any r12 compressor will not hold up to the r134 High pressures.

The compressor should be replaced with a small Sanden 507 is r12 and the 508 is like for r134a plus you'll need new hoses if using r134a as it runs higher pressure.

Also for best city stop & go driving a electric fan should be used like in all todays vehicles.
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Ok thank you for the response.
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Originally Posted by Salty Dog
Does this look like a unit that might fit my 72 f100 base model? It looks like it could be a dealer add on like the ones on this page Installing a Factory A/C Unit- FORDification.com

Classic Ford Truck AC parts
The bezel is similar to the 1968/72 F100/350 dealer installed Economy A/C, it's not factory A/C.

Factory installed integral A/C is combined with the heater. The A/C controls are located in the same panel as the heater controls.
 
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Going to check it out today.
 
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Bill,
I am putting together the parts, to haul South, to put A/C in my 67/72. I bought on evilbay, what was described as a factory unit, made by Fridgeking, but it had no compressor, nor brackets with it. Just the in-cab unit. My cab has a heater, so if this is truly a factory unit, will I need to remove the heater, as you describe the factory one as being integral.. I hope it comes with controls..?? Not sure, but if not, that will be the next hunt..


Sorry if I have hijacked this thread, but its still on the adding A/C to a bump..


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Bill,
I am putting together the parts, to haul South, to put A/C in my 67/72. I bought on evilbay, what was described as a factory unit, made by Fridgeking, but it had no compressor, nor brackets with it. Just the in-cab unit. My cab has a heater, so if this is truly a factory unit, will I need to remove the heater, as you describe the factory one as being integral.. I hope it comes with controls..?? Not sure, but if not, that will be the next hunt.
Fridgeking was an aftermarket A/C that Ford once offered for 1968/72 F100/350's. It was dealer installed, so it's not combined with the heater.

1967 F100/350's used the same A/C as 1965/66 F100/250's. Its "hang-on" bezel is the same as 1965/66 Mustang.

1968/72 F100/350 factory installed integral A/C:
 
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Thanks Bill,
Hope I understand, and it sounds like this Fridgeking unit will fit in my '67 cab, and might not interfere with the heater. If it does, that might not be a problem, as the truck lives in Southern Baja, so a heater is rarely needed. I will try to take a Sanden 508 compressor with me, in June when I return to Baja. If I can find the A/C brackets for my 300 IL 6, then those will travel with me too. If not, then the hunt will be on in jy's there. Hoses, and driers should be available in our 'big town' 45 miles away.
It has been recommended to me that I try and use the R-12, as it cools better, so the Sanden 507 may be a better choice. I do have a new 4 core aluminum radiator, 7 blade fan, and shroud, so I am pulling plenty of air. Your opinions are always valued, and followed when I can, so please feel free to make any recommendations you can. Thanks amigo


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This is just from a personal perspective but, I always prefer to use Ford designed original components where possible.

The aftermarket Sanden A/C compressors are very similar to the original Ford FS6 and 6P148A compressors.

This is just an example of a remanufactured FS6 Ford compressor that's been upgraded to be compatible with the higher pressure requirements of R134-A refrigerant --but it's still a Ford component.

Four Seasons Remanufactured Air Conditioning Compressors 57114 - Free Shipping on Orders Over $99 at Summit Racing
 
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Of course, I am laboring over the decision, whether to use a Ford original part, or an aftermarket part. I try to use OEM when I can, but the "New & Improved" aftermarket is always tempting. Using R12 is not an option in the USA, and probably makes sense, but in Mexico, plenty of R-12 is still on the shelves. I'm thinking that the lower pressure, probably is better all the way around, and most Mexican mechanics are way more familiar with it. The lower pressure hoses, fittings, and R-12 compressors are likely to be more available where I live.


Still pondering...


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Originally Posted by bajafishnut
Of course, I am laboring over the decision, whether to use a Ford original part, or an aftermarket part. I try to use OEM when I can, but the "New & Improved" aftermarket is always tempting. Using R12 is not an option in the USA, and probably makes sense, but in Mexico, plenty of R-12 is still on the shelves. I'm thinking that the lower pressure, probably is better all the way around, and most Mexican mechanics are way more familiar with it. The lower pressure hoses, fittings, and R-12 compressors are likely to be more available where I live.


Still pondering...


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I'm not saying a Sanden compressor isn't a good unit, they are good but, you never know when a compressor is going to go out on you.

The compressor is one of the highest wear items in an A/C system, simply because it's a moving mechanical device. It may last a long time but sooner or later, it's destined to fail and it will probably be at the worst time possible.

Hypothetical situation ..... You're on a long trip in your truck, far from home, in the summertime. The Sanden compressor decides to go **** up on you.

I did a search on the NAPA and O'Reilly websites. I found no listings for a Sanden A/C compressor. The only places I found them were through aftermarket suppliers like Vintage Air, Nostalgic Air, etc.

If a parts store didn't have the Ford compressor in stock, they could probably have it by the next morning.

Unless you're willing to pay a high one day shipping fee for a Sanden compressor, you won't get it for several days.
 
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I was paroozing the 'Other' Ford 67/72 web site, and came across a guy who has made a pretty nifty compressor mounting bracket, for 390's and FE's. He designed and made it for the passenger side, below the alternator. Very clean design, hydro cut, and U weld it yourself for less.. Since I've added power steering, and used the Econoline 'canned ham' style Delco pump, I am wondering if the Ford original compressor bracket will even fit? I have hauled enough parts 1000 miles South, only to find that they won't fit on my truck. It must be wonderful to have an entirely stock truck, with part numbers that match, and parts available right around the corner. I just like to think that one of the benefits of living in Baja, is its remoteness. But, on the other side of the cactus, the remoteness makes parts hunting difficult. Oh well, I have gotten along in my old truck for 45 years, guess I can fiddle with the A/C a while longer, and swim in the pool when it gets hot..


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[QUOTE=bajafishnut;15319899]I was paroozing the 'Other' Ford 67/72 web site, and came across a guy who has made a pretty nifty compressor mounting bracket, for 390's and FE's. He designed and made it for the passenger side, below the alternator. Very clean design, hydro cut, and U weld it yourself for less.. Since I've added power steering, and used the Econoline 'canned ham' style Delco pump, I am wondering if the Ford original compressor bracket will even fit? I have hauled enough parts 1000 miles South, only to find that they won't fit on my truck. It must be wonderful to have an entirely stock truck, with part numbers that match, and parts available right around the corner. I just like to think that one of the benefits of living in Baja, is its remoteness. But, on the other side of the cactus, the remoteness makes parts hunting difficult. Oh well, I have gotten along in my old truck for 45 years, guess I can fiddle with the A/C a while longer, and swim in the pool when it gets hot..


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This is the A/C compressor mounting bracket(s) I have for installing a Ford FS-6 (or compatible compressor mounting pattern) onto a Ford 240/300.

After I had wire brushed the majority of the gunk off of it.



After I had bead blasted and refinished it.



 


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