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diesel f-150?
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I'm not participating in the bogus forum, but I would certainly be interested in a diesel engine of the right size/power. As previously said, my wife's SUV has a 4-banger bi-turbo'd diesel that puts out 365 lb-ft at 1600 RPM. And it gets 35 - 38 MPG on the highway. Surely that would get in the high 20's on MPG in a full-sized pickup, and it's torque rating is only slightly less that the 2.7L Ecoboost's.
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I'm not participating in the bogus forum, but I would certainly be interested in a diesel engine of the right size/power. As previously said, my wife's SUV has a 4-banger bi-turbo'd diesel that puts out 365 lb-ft at 1600 RPM. And it gets 35 - 38 MPG on the highway. Surely that would get in the high 20's on MPG in a full-sized pickup, and it's torque rating is only slightly less that the 2.7L Ecoboost's.
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I didn't answer the poll but my I say no, I would not.
I refuse to pay the ridiculously high buy in costs that all automakers think they can charge for the diesel option. Plus, fuel is higher and maintenance costs are much higher.
Lastly, I don't think the small diesel is going to last any longer than a well maintained gasser. Sorry guys, i'm just not seeing the benefit here.
I refuse to pay the ridiculously high buy in costs that all automakers think they can charge for the diesel option. Plus, fuel is higher and maintenance costs are much higher.
Lastly, I don't think the small diesel is going to last any longer than a well maintained gasser. Sorry guys, i'm just not seeing the benefit here.
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I didn't answer the poll but my I say no, I would not.
I refuse to pay the ridiculously high buy in costs that all automakers think they can charge for the diesel option. Plus, fuel is higher and maintenance costs are much higher.
Lastly, I don't think the small diesel is going to last any longer than a well maintained gasser. Sorry guys, i'm just not seeing the benefit here.
I refuse to pay the ridiculously high buy in costs that all automakers think they can charge for the diesel option. Plus, fuel is higher and maintenance costs are much higher.
Lastly, I don't think the small diesel is going to last any longer than a well maintained gasser. Sorry guys, i'm just not seeing the benefit here.
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Let's not forget that we are talking about an option...possibly to go along with the Ecoboost engines.
Why not have a choice...it doesn't mean you have to buy one if you don't want it.
Currently as we know the Ram is offered with a 3.0 L Ecodiesel which has been getting mileage in the high twenties.
As I understand it Nissan (?) will be coming out with a "Heavy Half Ton" with the much anticipated 5.0 L Cummins which should be getting into the low to mid twenties.
Chebby will be offering a small diesel in their Canyon model for 2016 which should be approaching 30 mpg
Why wouldn't Ford join the party?
Why not have a choice...it doesn't mean you have to buy one if you don't want it.
Currently as we know the Ram is offered with a 3.0 L Ecodiesel which has been getting mileage in the high twenties.
As I understand it Nissan (?) will be coming out with a "Heavy Half Ton" with the much anticipated 5.0 L Cummins which should be getting into the low to mid twenties.
Chebby will be offering a small diesel in their Canyon model for 2016 which should be approaching 30 mpg
Why wouldn't Ford join the party?
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Diesel prices are nearly neck and neck with gasoline. Here in MN even though biodiesel is more expensive than diesel (contrary to E-85 and other ethanol blends), its mandatory at all pumps of at least B5-B10. In a few short years the Toyota Tundra will have the 5.0L Cummins as an option. Ford will be left behind in the half-ton diesel race. Ford would not need to build another diesel because they already have the 3.2L already in production for the Transit van so all they would need is make it compliant with the EPA for the F150.
They'll have to do something to meet CAFE standards of combined what is it 54.4mpg by 2025? Unless they can come up with a better option over diesel or hybrid, they really don't have much of a choice. I don't think the 2.7L or 3.5L EcoBoost engines will get more than 25/26 miles per gallon high way with the new transmissions coming out.
There is one thing I can compare this to...John Deere had always said for a long time and even with their competition had diesel powered tractors, they had said for a number of years they were not coming out with one. Then about 15 years later they did. I think Ford will do it, and it'll only be just a matter of time before they do. Or they bring back the Ranger and put a 2-something liter diesel in it.
It makes sense to own a diesel when both prices are high and the fuel economy of diesel really shines over gas engines. Ram 1500 EcoDiesel is not afraid to get 30/32 mpg highway. Yeah towing capacity isn't very high compared to the F150 but for some, towing 12,200lbs isn't a big deal.
They'll have to do something to meet CAFE standards of combined what is it 54.4mpg by 2025? Unless they can come up with a better option over diesel or hybrid, they really don't have much of a choice. I don't think the 2.7L or 3.5L EcoBoost engines will get more than 25/26 miles per gallon high way with the new transmissions coming out.
There is one thing I can compare this to...John Deere had always said for a long time and even with their competition had diesel powered tractors, they had said for a number of years they were not coming out with one. Then about 15 years later they did. I think Ford will do it, and it'll only be just a matter of time before they do. Or they bring back the Ranger and put a 2-something liter diesel in it.
It makes sense to own a diesel when both prices are high and the fuel economy of diesel really shines over gas engines. Ram 1500 EcoDiesel is not afraid to get 30/32 mpg highway. Yeah towing capacity isn't very high compared to the F150 but for some, towing 12,200lbs isn't a big deal.
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Two years ago today my wife, son, DiL, and I started a 4 week tour of Europe. Our rent car, a small SUV just big enough for 4 and some luggage, had a little bitty turbo'd diesel and a 5-speed manual. We drove that thing for over 2,000 miles, keeping up with traffic on the autostrada and autobahn, putt-putting through quaint villages, and climbing switchbacks on mountains that required constant rowing of the gears. But that thing did everything we asked of it and we averaged over 50 MPG.
I realize that our emissions standards are more strict than those of Europe, so our diesel fuel costs more and the engines cost more and don't get the same MPG. But, there's no way a gasoline engine would have given us the performance and economy that little diesel did. We were seriously impressed, which led to my wife buying a diesel-powered SUV when we got back. And had diesel been a viable option in a 1/2 ton pickup, including the ability to tow our 6,000 lb boat handily, I would have been on it like white on rice. But it wasn't as the Ram doesn't tow that much weight very well (ever notice the commercials show it towing a couple of motorcycles) and the Nissan isn't ready. And I didn't want to go to a 3/4 ton truck. So I ordered the 3.5L EB. But Ford is going to have to step up to diesel some day soon.
I realize that our emissions standards are more strict than those of Europe, so our diesel fuel costs more and the engines cost more and don't get the same MPG. But, there's no way a gasoline engine would have given us the performance and economy that little diesel did. We were seriously impressed, which led to my wife buying a diesel-powered SUV when we got back. And had diesel been a viable option in a 1/2 ton pickup, including the ability to tow our 6,000 lb boat handily, I would have been on it like white on rice. But it wasn't as the Ram doesn't tow that much weight very well (ever notice the commercials show it towing a couple of motorcycles) and the Nissan isn't ready. And I didn't want to go to a 3/4 ton truck. So I ordered the 3.5L EB. But Ford is going to have to step up to diesel some day soon.