In need of advice on dead cylinders on 390
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#17
Hi guys,
I don't know how to post a new thread so I'm gonna try here and hope for the best.
Here's the situation: I had a new 390 built for the 72 f250 C6 2WD CS Been runnin great no trouble. I drive 2.5 miles to work in it and around town to get supplies so mostly city driving. The other day I was coming up to a stop light and it started missing real bad so I checked it out and #4 was dead. I took the valve cover off and the valves were moving and it was getting spark. Vac guage was reading low and jumping around from 9 to 11 in Hg full vac on throttle shutdown was around 18 in Hg. normally about 23 in Hg. Did some reading and figured it must be a burnt valve. Mind you this motor has about 2000 mi on it. So I'm driving it back to the barn to continue investigating the issue and she gets about 2 blocks from the house and starts cackling and raising all kinds of hell. Remove valve cover and the #4 rocker and shaft fall on the floor. WTF over? Push rod is bent and come to find out the double valve springs had the outside heavy spring broken( wish I would have caught that) Tore it down popped off the head and the valve is not bent as far as I can tell. This motor is new would a broken valve spring cause all that? Is this a warranty issue ? I think so. It was properly broke in and ran like a stripped *** ape till it took a dump. My builder is in Redding and I'm in San Francisco so getting it back to him to fix is out of the question. Is there any thing else I should look for as the cause or just suck it up and put in a new rocker shaft, valve spring, push rod and drive it up there and shove it up his bum. Sorry but I'm a little more than pissed right now seeing as this clown took a year and a half to build the damn thing, overcharged me 500.00 cause he can't keep his paperwork straight, then he painted it black, on a 72 WTF again.
I don't know how to post a new thread so I'm gonna try here and hope for the best.
Here's the situation: I had a new 390 built for the 72 f250 C6 2WD CS Been runnin great no trouble. I drive 2.5 miles to work in it and around town to get supplies so mostly city driving. The other day I was coming up to a stop light and it started missing real bad so I checked it out and #4 was dead. I took the valve cover off and the valves were moving and it was getting spark. Vac guage was reading low and jumping around from 9 to 11 in Hg full vac on throttle shutdown was around 18 in Hg. normally about 23 in Hg. Did some reading and figured it must be a burnt valve. Mind you this motor has about 2000 mi on it. So I'm driving it back to the barn to continue investigating the issue and she gets about 2 blocks from the house and starts cackling and raising all kinds of hell. Remove valve cover and the #4 rocker and shaft fall on the floor. WTF over? Push rod is bent and come to find out the double valve springs had the outside heavy spring broken( wish I would have caught that) Tore it down popped off the head and the valve is not bent as far as I can tell. This motor is new would a broken valve spring cause all that? Is this a warranty issue ? I think so. It was properly broke in and ran like a stripped *** ape till it took a dump. My builder is in Redding and I'm in San Francisco so getting it back to him to fix is out of the question. Is there any thing else I should look for as the cause or just suck it up and put in a new rocker shaft, valve spring, push rod and drive it up there and shove it up his bum. Sorry but I'm a little more than pissed right now seeing as this clown took a year and a half to build the damn thing, overcharged me 500.00 cause he can't keep his paperwork straight, then he painted it black, on a 72 WTF again.
#18
Hi Joe,
Sorry to hear about your troubles! I wouldn't trust that that valve is not bent... as long as you have the head off, I'd pull that valve and roll it on a piece of glass or chuck it in a drill press to be sure. I'm guessing you've already checked its seat to confirm that that's okay. If all is well there, I can't think of anything else to check before you reassemble with the new parts you already outlined. Perhaps others will chime in with suggestions.
When re-installing the rocker shaft, you'll want to use Loctite, but I'm sure you already knew that.
Best of luck,
Jay
Sorry to hear about your troubles! I wouldn't trust that that valve is not bent... as long as you have the head off, I'd pull that valve and roll it on a piece of glass or chuck it in a drill press to be sure. I'm guessing you've already checked its seat to confirm that that's okay. If all is well there, I can't think of anything else to check before you reassemble with the new parts you already outlined. Perhaps others will chime in with suggestions.
When re-installing the rocker shaft, you'll want to use Loctite, but I'm sure you already knew that.
Best of luck,
Jay
#19
The company that built the motor called a few weeks ago and said they couldn't find a problem with the motor BUT that is crazy because I put all the exact same stuff on the new motor they sent and it runs perfect. They are missing something and I hate it because I wanted to know what it was. It stumped me and several more really good mechanics.
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