4X4 Highway Manners TTB vs Straight
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Anyway, I took off the parts I wanted and sold the rest. I sold the axle shafts for $120 and made all my money back. Then I sold the spindles, knuckles, and hubs and made another $250. I scrapped the rotors, calipers, and some other small stuff and made another $13. I still have the bare axle beams which I'm trying to sell, but I'll probably end up scrapping them and make another $10 or so. That Dana 50 was the best thing I ever bought for my truck.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...ttb-parts.html
Not sure why you had so much trouble selling your parts. I listed all my stuff on eBay and had no trouble selling them. I just priced my stuff lower than everyone else's and did "buy it now only" auctions. When people see the low price AND it's buy it now only, they know someone else could ****** it up at any time, so that encourages them to buy it before someone else does.
Oh yeah, and once I install the Dana 50 differential and stub shaft, I'll be selling my stock Dana 44 diff and stub shaft and make at least another $150-200.
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The only thing that I could add to the converting a 2wd 150 to a 4wd is that from the years that this thread (87-96) is on, the frames were the same. The F150 frame has a lot of holes in it, from what I understand was to lighten it. However, the rest of the frame is the same. I remember calling Ford several years back and they verified that. The only thing would be the shackles would have to be either welded on, bolted, or riveted on, but the holes should be there... And according to my Chilton manual, they all shared the same drive line. 4.9/5.0/5.8/7.5, E4OD, BW1356 with the different sized axles for the tonnage of the truck. Although I don't remember an F150 coming with a 460... Or did they?
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You're right, they don't. But you can take the entire Dana 50 differential (including the housing, you don't even remove the gears or carrier or anything) and bolt the entire Dana 50 housing onto a Dana 44 axle beam.
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Just what was said above. No one wants used TTB parts so it stands to reason that if someone wanted them they'd be cheaper from a junkyard or from the remains of someone's parts truck than a highly sought after Dana 60. But of course the price of used parts is completely determined by the value the seller thinks they are intersecting with the value the buyer sees in them. Which is why I said "might".
edit: There's another way a TTB is cheaper too. It wasn't what I was originally thinking, and it doesn't apply to Steve's pending conversion. But I have an F-250 with the TTB. I'd prefer a solid axle, but it's cheaper for me to stick with what I've got. Obvious that the cost of converting a TTB to a solid axle needs to be taken into account if considering a swap, but hey, I might as well state the obvious.
edit: There's another way a TTB is cheaper too. It wasn't what I was originally thinking, and it doesn't apply to Steve's pending conversion. But I have an F-250 with the TTB. I'd prefer a solid axle, but it's cheaper for me to stick with what I've got. Obvious that the cost of converting a TTB to a solid axle needs to be taken into account if considering a swap, but hey, I might as well state the obvious.
You said PARTS, not a whole axle. And since the D50 TTB and Dana 60 use MANY of the same parts, they re the same cost. IE, wheel bearings, hubs, ball joints, U joints, locking hubs etc. They re the same cost. but the 60 is actually CHEAPer because the same parts(ball joints) last 3-4 time longer than in a D50TTB.
I stand by my statement earlier NOTHING about the TTB is better than the Dana 60 solid axle, including cost
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You said PARTS, not a whole axle. And since the D50 TTB and Dana 60 use MANY of the same parts, they re the same cost. IE, wheel bearings, hubs, ball joints, U joints, locking hubs etc. They re the same cost. but the 60 is actually CHEAPer because the same parts(ball joints) last 3-4 time longer than in a D50TTB.
I stand by my statement earlier NOTHING about the TTB is better than the Dana 60 solid axle, including cost
I stand by my statement earlier NOTHING about the TTB is better than the Dana 60 solid axle, including cost
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#24
I'll take a dana 50 ttb for the street or ballin through rough terrain. Someone with a dana 60 wouldn't be able to follow me. . .
there are some instances where a ttb > solid. TTBs are more finicky, no doubt, but setup properly the ride quality can't be matched. Ask too much of it while towing, you'll have horrible steering. Just wanna fly over bumps? Nothing (4x4) massed produced is better.....period.
there are some instances where a ttb > solid. TTBs are more finicky, no doubt, but setup properly the ride quality can't be matched. Ask too much of it while towing, you'll have horrible steering. Just wanna fly over bumps? Nothing (4x4) massed produced is better.....period.
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I'll take a dana 50 ttb for the street or ballin through rough terrain. Someone with a dana 60 wouldn't be able to follow me. . .
there are some instances where a ttb > solid. TTBs are more finicky, no doubt, but setup properly the ride quality can't be matched. Ask too much of it while towing, you'll have horrible steering. Just wanna fly over bumps? Nothing (4x4) massed produced is better.....period.
there are some instances where a ttb > solid. TTBs are more finicky, no doubt, but setup properly the ride quality can't be matched. Ask too much of it while towing, you'll have horrible steering. Just wanna fly over bumps? Nothing (4x4) massed produced is better.....period.
But a stock LEAF sprung TTB has less wheel travel than a stock solid axle, and they can't be modified to give significant wheel travel. The best I can say about the F-250s leaf spring TTB is that it's not so bad that everyone needs to run out and replace it. But it's worse than either a solid axle or a coil spring TTB for everything.
#27
I'll agree that a COIL sprung TTB is great for going fast over rough terrain. Especially if modified well it will have more wheel travel than any other IFS system, and less unsprung weight than any solid axle system. It's the gold standard for go-fast 4WD.
But a stock LEAF sprung TTB has less wheel travel than a stock solid axle, and they can't be modified to give significant wheel travel. The best I can say about the F-250s leaf spring TTB is that it's not so bad that everyone needs to run out and replace it. But it's worse than either a solid axle or a coil spring TTB for everything.
But a stock LEAF sprung TTB has less wheel travel than a stock solid axle, and they can't be modified to give significant wheel travel. The best I can say about the F-250s leaf spring TTB is that it's not so bad that everyone needs to run out and replace it. But it's worse than either a solid axle or a coil spring TTB for everything.
#28
Not true about the leaf springs. With a little lift and some spring tuning it is a long travel high articulation setup. Yea, the leaf springs don't take as well as coils to high arc (spring twist) but I've set up a few in my day, including one I ran for ~7 years, and there's no comparison between a setup ttb leaf sprung and a solid.
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