Name that part: 223 oil system
#1
Name that part: 223 oil system
Hokai, So.
Finishing up a rebuild on a 223, and I think I have to replace a part in the oiling system. This may take an expert.
It appears that there are two tubes responsible for getting oil to the rockers on my engine. They come out of a hole in the area behind the pushrod cover and are tied into the rocker arm shaft by a metal flange and the bolts that mount the rocker arm shaft/assembly to the cylinder head.
The tube going to the rear of the rocker shaft has a nice bubble flare at the end of it and seems to seat nicely into the block beneath the pushrod area. The tube that goes to the front of the rocker shaft has a jagged end, and I also can't find the metal flange that holds it down. I can't figure out what to call those pieces, and as a result, can't figure out how to order it.
I've heard that a lot of people have issues getting oil to the rockers on these engines (and I think I maybe have found the design flaw that leads to it! I can't find a way to access the area where these tubes are seated to verify the connection) and that aftermarket oiler kits are popular. Is this something that I can order, is it possible to fabricate the right piece of tubing, or would an oiler kit be my best option at this point?
Thanks, gang. Don't know what I'd do without you.
Finishing up a rebuild on a 223, and I think I have to replace a part in the oiling system. This may take an expert.
It appears that there are two tubes responsible for getting oil to the rockers on my engine. They come out of a hole in the area behind the pushrod cover and are tied into the rocker arm shaft by a metal flange and the bolts that mount the rocker arm shaft/assembly to the cylinder head.
The tube going to the rear of the rocker shaft has a nice bubble flare at the end of it and seems to seat nicely into the block beneath the pushrod area. The tube that goes to the front of the rocker shaft has a jagged end, and I also can't find the metal flange that holds it down. I can't figure out what to call those pieces, and as a result, can't figure out how to order it.
I've heard that a lot of people have issues getting oil to the rockers on these engines (and I think I maybe have found the design flaw that leads to it! I can't find a way to access the area where these tubes are seated to verify the connection) and that aftermarket oiler kits are popular. Is this something that I can order, is it possible to fabricate the right piece of tubing, or would an oiler kit be my best option at this point?
Thanks, gang. Don't know what I'd do without you.
#2
The long tube that goes down into the block is the oil supply tube and be sure you have the O ring type seal on the end that goes into the block. The short front one is the oil return, it just dumps the oil onto the head and drains back through the push rod hole. I don't know what the official name of that bracket that holds them in place is called.
#3
Remove the side cover and you will see where the tubes go to the block. I believe the "hold down bracket" is the same as a 5, 6, 7 TBird and you can get it from those suppliers. I had my machine shop remake both tubes for $15. Hiball is right make sure the O ring is on the bottom the supply line. The o ring should be in your engine rebuild gasket kit. I Use Rotella 15 40 in my rebuilt 223 and have no oil issues. Another thought - have you oriented the rod caps and main caps correctly - what did the plasti-gage tell you about clearances.
#4
Remove the side cover and you will see where the tubes go to the block. I believe the "hold down bracket" is the same as a 5, 6, 7 TBird and you can get it from those suppliers. I had my machine shop remake both tubes for $15. Hiball is right make sure the O ring is on the bottom the supply line. The o ring should be in your engine rebuild gasket kit. I Use Rotella 15 40 in my rebuilt 223 and have no oil issues. Another thought - have you oriented the rod caps and main caps correctly - what did the plasti-gage tell you about clearances.
#6
The 223 uses a single larger hole, I'm not sure the Y block one could be drilled out that large. I'll look at both when I get out to the garage later today..
#7
The long tube (6580) that goes down into the block is the oil supply tube and be sure you have the O ring type seal (6594) on the end that goes into the block.
The short front one (6588) is the oil return, it just dumps the oil onto the head and drains back through the push rod hole.
I don't know what the official name of that bracket (6574) that holds them in place is called.
The short front one (6588) is the oil return, it just dumps the oil onto the head and drains back through the push rod hole.
I don't know what the official name of that bracket (6574) that holds them in place is called.
The 1954/64 Y block bracket (EBU-6575-A) is completely different! See 6575 in pic at right.
C1AE-6580-B .. Tube-Valve Rocker Shaft Oil Inlet / 1960/64 223/262 / Obsolete
C1AE-6588-B .. Tube-Valve Rocker Shaft Oil Outlet / 1960/64 223/262 / Obsolete
EAA-6594-A .. Seal-Valve Rocker Arm Shaft Oil Inlet Tube / 1952/53 215 / 1954/64 233 / 1961/64 262 / Obsolete
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#8
Alright: getting there. I found the O-ring in my gasket kit and the rear looks good. I was able to get some thicker sheet metal and fab up the other part to my satisfaction.
If I'm reading this correctly, the oil comes up from the rear tube, then gets let out from the front tube. Is it far to say that the front one doesn't need an O-ring and to be properly sealed to the block? As long as the oil is getting out and winds up back down in the oil pan it's not a big deal? I'm a little uncomfortable with that, but you guys are the experts and I'll roll with it.
Failing that, can anybody point me to Ciae-6588B?
If I'm reading this correctly, the oil comes up from the rear tube, then gets let out from the front tube. Is it far to say that the front one doesn't need an O-ring and to be properly sealed to the block? As long as the oil is getting out and winds up back down in the oil pan it's not a big deal? I'm a little uncomfortable with that, but you guys are the experts and I'll roll with it.
Failing that, can anybody point me to Ciae-6588B?
#9
Alright: getting there. I found the O-ring in my gasket kit and the rear looks good. I was able to get some thicker sheet metal and fab up the other part to my satisfaction.
If I'm reading this correctly, the oil comes up from the rear tube, then gets let out from the front tube. Is it far to say that the front one doesn't need an O-ring and to be properly sealed to the block? As long as the oil is getting out and winds up back down in the oil pan it's not a big deal? I'm a little uncomfortable with that, but you guys are the experts and I'll roll with it.
Failing that, can anybody point me to Ciae-6588B?
If I'm reading this correctly, the oil comes up from the rear tube, then gets let out from the front tube. Is it far to say that the front one doesn't need an O-ring and to be properly sealed to the block? As long as the oil is getting out and winds up back down in the oil pan it's not a big deal? I'm a little uncomfortable with that, but you guys are the experts and I'll roll with it.
Failing that, can anybody point me to Ciae-6588B?
#11
Alright: getting there. I found the O-ring in my gasket kit and the rear looks good. I was able to get some thicker sheet metal and fab up the other part to my satisfaction.
If I'm reading this correctly, the oil comes up from the rear tube, then goes out from the front tube. The front tube does not use an O-ring!
Failing that, can anybody point me to C1AE-6588-B?
If I'm reading this correctly, the oil comes up from the rear tube, then goes out from the front tube. The front tube does not use an O-ring!
Failing that, can anybody point me to C1AE-6588-B?
No Ford dealer, no other obsolete parts vendor has any.
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