Anyone pulling a 5th wheel with a tongue weight rated at 2665 lbs? Open Range Trailer we are looking at is 12015 Dry and will probably tow around 13K based upon what we have now. Have on order a 2015 F-250 6.2 L with 4.30 gears with the factory prep tow package.

Not being able to weigh future purchases is a hindrance. Thanks for your input.

 

i would see if i could find an RV forum for your trailer manufacturer. Keystone has a forum, I suspect the others do also. They could give you some insight into your rig....and trailer

http://www.openrangeowners.com/

 

What is the cargo capacity of your F250? It gets eaten up quick, and that 2600 lbs comes off the cargo capacity. My F250 CC will not take that weight on the pin, but capacities vary greatly.

 

I moved this to the towing section. There are a lot of us who towing those rolling bricks here.


What you want to do it get your truck on the scales and see where it sits right now.


Then take the gross of the trailer and figure 20% of that number will go against the payload of the truck (what the truck will carry). So if the trailer gross is 13K then 20% of that is going to be 2600 lbs. Then add the hitch and all the gear in the truck.


A 6.2 with 4.30 gears will handle this amount. Do you have the towing guide for the truck?

 

Check payload sticker on the door of the truck. My F250 has a payload of about 3300 lbs. I had my truck weighed with trailer attached and pin weight came in right around 2100 lbs with trailer loaded with our gear. The RAWR for my truck is 6,000lbs and with the trailer attached my rear axle comes in at 5300 lbs per the scale. I have a B&W slider hitch which weighs over 200 lbs. all that to say is if the payload of your truck is similar to mine and that pin weight of yours is dry, chances are you will be close to going overt your payload, RAWR and/or GVWR. I'm coming in at 9,280 so just a little over 700 lbs till I hit the GVWR rating.

I know you didn't ask but we also looked at the Open Range fivers and theo ne thing that turned me off was that the slides used cables.

 

You can usually figure about 20-25% for the pin weight. My 5ver weighs in at about 10,400 and my pin weight is 2K.

 

Our 5th weighs in at 12780# with 3020# on the pin. We pull with the F350 CC SB 6.7 KR. To know how much weight you can add you've got to hit the scales. The sticker on the "B" pillar tells you Front/Rear GAWR but not what the actual weights on the axles are. The trim level, cab style, length and drive train configure will affect the actual axle weights and available cargo. The difference between Rear GAWR and the rear axle weight is the rear axle cargo. The majority of this will be the pin. Let's say you have 3600# rear axle cargo remaining, that suggests a 5th weight of about 14400#. Don't go by the truck's Max Tow number. You will max the rear axle before hitting that number.
I was intimidated by my first scale visit (I've done 3 at this point) but got thru it and I tow with confidence.
The CAT Scale is your friend.r

 

Axle ratings, tire ratings will be the most important.


Axle ratings are on the door cert but you will have to check the sidewall for the tire rating at max psi.

 

I tow a Yellowstone/Gulf stream 5r with a posted pin wt of 2397# and dry wt of 11,985# I have not had a chance to scale it yet. I tow with an F350 CC dually with a 6.2L and 4.30 rear axle that I ordered an it does a great job.
According to Ford's Trailer towing selector and depending on configuration (CC, SC or single) an F250 with tow around 15.000# maximum loaded trailer weight.
My truck's b pillar sticker shows 14,000 GVWR with 4700# frt and 9650# rear.
Your dealer should be able to furnish you this info on your truck (since its on order) for your to confirm / verify before it comes in.
Hope this helps and good luck.

PS the towing info is on Ford's web site

 

A couple days late, but I'll chime in. The 250 is identical to the SRW 350 except for the rear upper overload springs. If you ordered the camper package it will come with them on your 250 too. If not, just add airbags and you will have the same thing. The 250 and 350 SRW are built to identical specs, just marketed differently with different payload stickers in the door jamb. Bottom line is you will be fine with that pin weight. Remember, the GVWR on the 250 is nonsense. Check the GVWR on an identically equipped 350 SRW and that will be you real number.

 

Axle ratings are what counts..and tire max load ratings.


that is what DOT cares about along with being registered for the weight on the truck.

 

Right Scott but remember that Ford rates the 250's and 350 SRW's axles different despite them being identical with the same part numbers. So, the axle rating is as fabricated as the GVWR on a 250.

 

True, true.


This is as good a time as any...the axle splines are the same folks...it is a misprint in the publications.

 

LOLOL , why on earth would you think that might come up?

 

Our 5th is about 500lbs heavier dry than yours. Loaded, we are at 3340 lbs on the pin.


Don't forget, your truck carries much more than just the pin weight (hitch, supplies, people, animals, tool boxes, generators, etc). Add up everything.