just returned the last exide batt I'll ever buy
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just returned the last exide batt I'll ever buy
Hey y'all, remember when the word Exide didn't make you groan?
Anyway, may I ask what minimum CCA y'all recommend for the new batt I'm about to buy at CostCo?
Interstate Batteries--hallelujah!
('56 F350 with the Holley 1bbl on a 223 inline 6). We don't go below zero much, but it does get mighty cold'n damp here in the Pacific Northwest.
'Preciate it,
m
Anyway, may I ask what minimum CCA y'all recommend for the new batt I'm about to buy at CostCo?
Interstate Batteries--hallelujah!
('56 F350 with the Holley 1bbl on a 223 inline 6). We don't go below zero much, but it does get mighty cold'n damp here in the Pacific Northwest.
'Preciate it,
m
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Exide I'm taking back to the store tomorrow had an 84-month warranty and didn't even last 1 year--and it was a replacement for a previous Exide also returned dead after less than half its guaranteed life, so that was it for me. And hearing from everyone I've asked so far that from being the best brand, Exide has fallen to the worst, just figured I'd move on to Interstate.
But JWC, are you saying you've had bad luck with Interstate, too?
Yikes, what's a body to do? Buy an Optima RedTop?
But JWC, are you saying you've had bad luck with Interstate, too?
Yikes, what's a body to do? Buy an Optima RedTop?
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I don't know if it is a regional issue or what . I worked for a parts house almost 20 years ago and had pallots of bad new batteries . I use to sell Interstate , no better . I see bad batch runs still today buying from parts stores , but not often . I mostly use Super Start and Carquest batteries now . We install many batteries , autos to heavy trucks and equipment .
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In North American, the vast majority of lead acid automotive batteries are made by Johnson Controls or Exide. Since battery manufacturing historically is a nasty business and battery freight costs are problematic, multiple producing locations are needed to support nationwide brands. In addition, the only way for a manufacturer to stay price competitive is to vertically integrate and control parts of the lead sourcing. This is best done by at least managing the battery recycling (a higher percentage of car batteries are recycled in the US than aluminum beverage cans about 90%+ versus 80%ish) and or smelting. Ideally, you'll do both.
For the branding, Johnson Controls is Interstate and Optima. It is also either the exclusive or majority producer for Wal-Mart, Costco, Sears, CarQuest, Farm and Fleet, and Delphi in total, it holds about 75% of the market. Exide tends to use their own name in the market and does have some reseller presence - I'm not as familiar with those partners.
The car companies buy from both (Chrysler was stronger with Exide). Johnson has a much stronger global presence including multiple joint venture partners.
The battery manufacturing process is generic - black cased batteries are run down one line, finished, and sent to the distribution center without labels. Based on customer orders, the batteries are decorated (brand labels applied) and shipped to the selling location. The exception are Optima products due to the unique construction.
Unless you look very closely at some labels (and even then it's not a given), the producer isn't identified.
Trojan is an independent producer with their own operations and brand.
On the quality side, a capable factory should have consistent good product out the door. Since the batteries are generally shipped fully charged, there really isn't an excuse for DOA batteries. Early failure is likely a reflection of manufacturing issues that are revealed in use.
The last thing to know is that no manufacturer will ever admit to an explosion of their product. Rather, it may occasionally 'spontaneously disassemble'. So be aware.
For the branding, Johnson Controls is Interstate and Optima. It is also either the exclusive or majority producer for Wal-Mart, Costco, Sears, CarQuest, Farm and Fleet, and Delphi in total, it holds about 75% of the market. Exide tends to use their own name in the market and does have some reseller presence - I'm not as familiar with those partners.
The car companies buy from both (Chrysler was stronger with Exide). Johnson has a much stronger global presence including multiple joint venture partners.
The battery manufacturing process is generic - black cased batteries are run down one line, finished, and sent to the distribution center without labels. Based on customer orders, the batteries are decorated (brand labels applied) and shipped to the selling location. The exception are Optima products due to the unique construction.
Unless you look very closely at some labels (and even then it's not a given), the producer isn't identified.
Trojan is an independent producer with their own operations and brand.
On the quality side, a capable factory should have consistent good product out the door. Since the batteries are generally shipped fully charged, there really isn't an excuse for DOA batteries. Early failure is likely a reflection of manufacturing issues that are revealed in use.
The last thing to know is that no manufacturer will ever admit to an explosion of their product. Rather, it may occasionally 'spontaneously disassemble'. So be aware.
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Sorry to say, I've been hearing bad reports on the Optima line also. Still having good luck with Interstate, but that could change with the new one I just bought, time will tell. I'm assuming you've checked charging system for any issues. I usually buy the most cranking and reserve capacity available for the size battery needed.
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I have a friend who works at a NAPA and he takes the turn in core batteries that look good, puts them on a slow charge and then tests them. He gave me a "junk" core battery and I have had it for a few years now. Starts my truck just fine.
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