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Old 08-18-2015, 08:15 PM
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The install is pretty straight forward. Cutting the core support makes me cringe but that has to be done no matter which one you have. The problem I had was that someone had messed with my front bumper brackets and they had been cut off and welded at one point. So I had to cut them off clean them up and then re weld them back in the correct location matching the other 3 trucks we had sitting around the shop that day lol that took a minute. If it wasn't for that I would think you could have it all done in a day start to finish. I also had to re work my mount setup for my newer 7.3 tranny cooler which took me some additional time that most people wouldn't encounter.

Also what is the issue everyone seems to have with Banks? They sure seem to manufacture a superior intercooler so I don't see what the issue is lol
It's not the IC people have an issue with, but rather his way overpriced "PowerPack" kits and that sort of thing. What kind of issue did you have with your tranny cooler? Mine is located up front on the left side. I hope I don't have to relocate it too. Where did you put yours?

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Well pulled my heaviest load to date with the setup. Excess of 20,000lbs. and Pulling it over 50 miles with varying terrain from flat ground to the hillground of the crooked river valley it did flawlessly. I ran the BTS 80HP Tow tune and EGT's were completely manageable. fuel economy was around 10 mpg for the whole run at an avg speed of 65-70 mph.
This is really good to hear! I am getting more confident in my decision to purchase? Could you keep your foot in it and not run the EGTs too high?
 
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Old 08-18-2015, 08:26 PM
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I just did a 6.0 ic cooler in mine. But mine acts a little different. My egts rise about the same as before but has a ceiling. When I tow my egts go up to 1200 degrees and then hover there. Then once I've maintained boost at 14 psi or higher for 30secs-a minute I'll start to go back down to 1125. Does urs do this as well?
 
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yea I was able to stay in it. Now you have to be reasonable.... running WTFO would probably spike it up. But I could continually accelerate going up decent hills.... I'm running the recommended 7.3 super duty trans cooler. It's probably 3 times the size of the factory E40D cooler and it's mounted in/on the bumper.... now one thing people like to argue with me on is that the 6.0 trans cooler is the one Brian says to use and it IS NOT. you can't run the 6.0 trans cooler and an intercooler at the same time. theres just not enough room and he will tell ya that to lol cause I origionally ordered the 6.0 cooler and called him and was talking to him about mounting it and he laughed and said I better try an return it cause it won't fit he's tried lol
 
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I beg to differ. Two summers ago I had the 6.0 trans cooler mounted in between the radiator and ac condenser. It can be done. I removed it because I thought to much heat was generated by the 6.0 trans cooler for the radiator only to find it didn't make much difference.
 
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I have the 6.0 ic and 31 row 6.0 tranny cooler in mine. Ac stays cold, radiator works great, tranny stays below 150 and ic works great. I have the top of the ic about 4"s below the top of the ac condenser and the tranny cooler 2"s below the top of the ic cooler. All of them are spaced 1.5"s apart horizontally. It all fits and breaths and I tow in the worst conditions possible.

Keep in mind "fitting" is a relative term. It'll fit you just have to trim the grill support and the backside of the grill itself.
 
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I have the 6.0 ic and 31 row 6.0 tranny cooler in mine. Ac stays cold, radiator works great, tranny stays below 150 and ic works great. I have the top of the ic about 4"s below the top of the ac condenser and the tranny cooler 2"s below the top of the ic cooler. All of them are spaced 1.5"s apart horizontally. It all fits and breaths and I tow in the worst conditions possible.

Keep in mind "fitting" is a relative term. It'll fit you just have to trim the grill support and the backside of the grill itself.
Ahhhhhh see there lies the difference.... I did not cut out the metal bracket from the bottom of core support up to the hood latch or the grill itself. I did have to trim up the plastic light/grill bracket. The top temp I've ever had with the 7.3 trans cooler is 160 and that was with that heavy load the other day and outdoor temp was 90-95 with 75-80% humidity. Typical temp runs between 145-155 on a summer day and 130-140 during winter. I would say that the 7.3 trans cooler is as effective as the 6.0 trans cooler as far as my readings though..... Trans fluid is still stable above 200 degrees and my fluid will never see that temp.

The order my coolers are mounted in is trans cooler closest to front then inter cooler, then a/c, then radiator
 
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Originally Posted by 1994F2507.3L
Ahhhhhh see there lies the difference.... I did not cut out the metal bracket from the bottom of core support up to the hood latch or the grill itself. I did have to trim up the plastic light/grill bracket. The top temp I've ever had with the 7.3 trans cooler is 160 and that was with that heavy load the other day and outdoor temp was 90-95 with 75-80% humidity. Typical temp runs between 145-155 on a summer day and 130-140 during winter. I would say that the 7.3 trans cooler is as effective as the 6.0 trans cooler as far as my readings though..... Trans fluid is still stable above 200 degrees and my fluid will never see that temp.

The order my coolers are mounted in is trans cooler closest to front then inter cooler, then a/c, then radiator
Ill have to disagree with u on the 7.3 trans cooler being as effective as the 6.0 cooler. If the 7.3 cooler is working for you then thats all that matters. Ive seen the 7.3 SD trans cooler on my buddies truck, its about 1/4 of the size of the 6.0 cooler and not much bigger then our stock coolers. I would have loved to be able to just use the 7.3 one, it would have fit in there ALOT easier. I couldnt use it because I pull a 30ft 6-7k camper up 20% grade hills, and go from 4k feet to 12.5k feet elevation. I stopped using the 7.3 cooler when I first saw 250 degrees. Which was the first time I towed with my truck. Keep in mind over 200 degrees the tranny fluid is still stable, but the cooler u can keep the fluid theoretically the longer your tranny should last.

Im running the same cooler order as you.
 
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What did you guys use to cut the support? I was going to buy a grinder since my last one was stolen, but I am wondering if some other tool would be better?

And for the record, I have been using a TrueCool cooler since I have owned the truck. John said it's more than enough to keep it cool without having to do the 6.0 cooler. Towing 10k pounds up 6% grades in desert heat is about the worst I can imagine and it never got above 170*. I normally run the same with 155 being normal in summer unloaded. Sometimes I think the 6.0 cooler is overkill with all of the room it takes up. The smaller AM still gets the job done.
 
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What did you guys use to cut the support? I was going to buy a grinder since my last one was stolen, but I am wondering if some other tool would be better?

And for the record, I have been using a TrueCool cooler since I have owned the truck. John said it's more than enough to keep it cool without having to do the 6.0 cooler. Towing 10k pounds up 6% grades in desert heat is about the worst I can imagine and it never got above 170*. I normally run the same with 155 being normal in summer unloaded. Sometimes I think the 6.0 cooler is overkill with all of the room it takes up. The smaller AM still gets the job done.
Come to the monument here in colorado. Its desert as well, haha youll see theres worst things then u imagined. Theres a reason why they test tow capacities here. The metal support bracket, and the grill support I used a pneumatic right angle die grinder, with a cut off wheel . The plastic on the back of the grill I used a burr bit like this. Itll eat through the plastic.
 
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My trucool keeps me just great. Always 175-185 depending on ambient.
The mountains of east tn and northcarolina didn't bother me...and I am FAR from stock power lol.
 
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I haven't towed with it on any long pulls up more than a 10% grade but I'd be very surprised to see mine get that hot.... I run it through the radiator cooler honestly just to keep some heat in the fluid in winter.... So it goes through the radiator cooler then up front to the SD cooler then back to the trans. I would say that the SD cooler has probably 3 times the surface for cooking than the stock E40D cooler has. It would probably cool even more had I used the 6.0 cooler but like I said I didn't want to cut out more metal than was needed for the inter cooler mounting. And hey what works for one don't work for all lol
 
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You guys ever notice how Aaron lol's every time he mentions how much power his truck has? Hehehe.
 
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Originally Posted by 1994F2507.3L
Well pulled my heaviest load to date with the setup. Excess of 20,000lbs. and Pulling it over 50 miles with varying terrain from flat ground to the hillground of the crooked river valley it did flawlessly. I ran the BTS 80HP Tow tune and EGT's were completely manageable. fuel economy was around 10 mpg for the whole run at an avg speed of 65-70 mph.
So you were around 28,000lbs? What is your truck registered for?
 
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You guys ever notice how Aaron lol's every time he mentions how much power his truck has? Hehehe.
its a turd..we ALL know it..
 
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So you were around 28,000lbs? What is your truck registered for?
Combined weight was probably around 21-22,000lbs. My truck is licensed for 18,000lbs.
 


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