Some of the bigger trucks up to '69-ish (I think) also had the cluster.


To my knowledge, your '64 F350 came standard with the speedo, fuel, and temp gauge and oil and gen (or alt) lights with the only options of an alt and oil gauge.

All of this has got me thinking; could you order just an oil or alt gauge and not get them both?

 

Hi, I am installing the same gauge package in my '62 Uni. All that is really needed is the rear gauge housing and gauges from a Bronco or heavy truck. I have both and can help someone with parts. The oil pressure wiring is pretty much the same plus a sender change. The Amp meter works like a volt meter, all you have to do to make it work is run a 8-10 gauge wire from the gen or alt through a loop on the back of the gauge and back to the starter relay. The Bronco has a single stud and socket style connector at the rear of the cluster for easy service. You must route the wire through the loop the correct way or it will function backwards. I am also using the tach and running it off the front of the crankshaft with a 90 degree half speed adapter. Unless you can source a dist. from a heavy truck a T-bird dist goes for about $1000 if you can find one. Ebay has a cable and reducer for $200 right now. I am also using the air pressure gauge hooked to my air lift springs. I should be able to answer questions as I go on my truck.

 

I've come across these dash bezels with full gauges regularly, largely on eBay: they seem to have come out of F500s or larger. Many have an air pressure gauge on the left (for air brakes) but a number have a vacuum gauge on the left (which, while not being essential, is far more relevant to an F-100 through F-350 than an air pressure gauge). I'm having a tach converted from cable-drive to electric and the face re-painted for a higher RPM range. Every factory example I've thus far seen -- and I've seen at least a dozen -- has a redline at 3,400 RPMs with 4,000 RPMs as the maximum shown on the face. Did they all come out of diesels? Or is that how they wanted all their trucks operated?

Regards,

Steve

 

Shadow, if I may correct you. The 4 gauge, round speedo unit, was available for the F-100s if you ordered it that way. I am the 2nd owner of a 65 CC that was ordered that way. He did not like the looks of the new style sweep speedo, nor holes drilled for those tiny gauges, no one can read.
I know this because he was a good friend of mine and I was with him when he ordered the truck. He was a good man, taken a few weeks into his first tour. The truck was in his will to me.

 

Another thing I would like to add if I may. There are also two different speedo faces, besides the gauge differences. If you look closely, you will notice that, that Bronco speedo has the hash marks inward of the members. The ones for the larger F serous and special orders, have the hash marks on the outer side of the numbers.

 

The sweep speedo came out in 65 in the Custom Cab.


All 61-64 and 65-66 non custom cabs had the round speedo.


I have never seen a factory F100 with the round speedo and four gauges. Doesn't mean Ford didn't make any, but if they did, they are extremely rare.

 

I have three 1966 Custom Cabs and two of them have round speedo, too. Not special ordered. either. Completely stock.

 

OK, not sure what the point is?


You couldn't get a sweep speedo in 61-64 because Ford didn't make them.


In 65-66 was the round speedo standard and the sweep optional? ND would know.

 

4X4's (excluding 1966 F100's) never had the sweep speedometer as stock.

 

To the best of my knowledge.
In 65-66 model's the sweep style was a Customcab model (ie trim package)verse standard cab model.

 

Like everyone here has stated, these gauge sets come from heavy duty trucks like school buses, dump trucks cement mixers and the such. Diesel engines were not used much in that era, just about everything had a gas engine. The reason the tachometers didn't go over 4000 is because their engines made all of their HP and Torque before then, and to keep Joe lead from trying to squeeze a little more power from more RPMs, all of those heavy trucks had a governor under the carb to keep the revs in control and provide a longer service life from the engine. And if you think about it most daily driving rarely sees an engine run harder than 4500 RPMs. My 292 is suppose to idle at 450 RPMs in drive with the parking brake set, and it does. Back in the 50s and 60s the manufactures boasted about quality in their products and one way to prove a quality engine was to get a dead smooth idle at the lowest RPM possible. I was able to use a factory tach by using a 90 degree half speed gear reducer that I bought from ebay for $60.00 brand new, I purchased a cable from NAPA for $15.00. I had a local machine shop cut a small tube with threads (for mounting) $10.00. I fabed up a bracket in front of the crank pulley and am running the adapter(1/2 speed reducer) off of the crank bolt with a 1/4 inch roll pin( spring pin, tension pin ). It works like a charm. Ford used a lot of iron in their engines back then. If you have ever seen one apart it looks like a Flat head engine with overhead valve heads bolted on. They are very heavy and once you get them moving it doesn't take much to keep it moving.

 

Except all '65 4X4's and '66 F250 4X4's. Even if they were a custom cab, they got the round speedometer. Why? I have no idea.


I would also make a WAG that F350 custom cabs never got the sweep speedometer in '65 or '66 either.

 

Sorry for hijacking thread Since the topic has come up thought I would inquire since it appears several members are familiar with the 'sweeping speedo'. Came across a cluster on ebay couple years back were the plastic is entirely black so I placed a bid figuring the PO painted the dash so I placed a bid for the gauges. Upon arrival found the cluster is in pristine condition and it was not painted, any thoughts whether FOMOCO produced a black cluster, I aint never seen one before??

 

This may or may not have anything to do with round clusters in the '65/'66 4x4s. All '65/'66 trucks that have 4 wheel drive were built using the '61/'64 cab, radiator support and inner fenders.

 

As I posted once or twice before, it does have something to do with that. But your statement is not completely true. '66 F100 4X4's were very similar body-wise to the '65 and '66 F100 and F250 2X4's.

Also, I think it would be more appropriate to say that '65 4X4's and '66 F250 4X4's were the same as '65 and '66 f350's respectively.