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Removed stock 6.0 transmission pan/installed 2008 6.4 trans pan & FT-180 filter

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Has anyone done any research why you have to change the pan? Why not just use the 08 filter? Cant some heat and a hammer fix the situation?
 
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Originally Posted by Rellick
Wouldn't either one work like a radiator? Where the air hitting it is usually fresh.
If the air around the pan was fresh there would be some cooling from the pan. But the air around the pan is HOT, so it can't cool the transmission. It doesn't matter if you have cooling tubes or cooling fins, when the air hitting them is hot it won't cool the trans.

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Has anyone done any research why you have to change the pan? Why not just use the 08 filter? Cant some heat and a hammer fix the situation?
As long as you modify the pan correctly so that the flow into the filter is right, that will work. If you do it wrong the trans will starve for fluid and you'll need a new transmission. Just make sure to do this right, and test and measure the flow inside the pan, just like was done designing the OEM pan.
 
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Originally Posted by chaser1602
Has anyone done any research why you have to change the pan? Why not just use the 08 filter? Cant some heat and a hammer fix the situation?
Take a look at post #97 in this thread:

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...-filter-7.html

You would have to add material to the pan -- it ends up taking an additional qt of oil, so in my opinion no, you can't just pound the pan into a bigger shape...

(my gawd that would be ugly )
 
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(my gawd that would be ugly )[/QUOTE]


Nuthin a cupla beers wouldn't take care of
 
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I think the pan would be one of those cases where saving a dime would cost you a dollar. Either leave it alone or buy the pan and filter.
 
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Originally Posted by chaser1602
(my gawd that would be ugly )

Nuthin a cupla beers wouldn't take care of [/QUOTE]



heh heh heh -- ok, you really want to try it? (after a few beers of course) -- I have my old pan you can have for free, that way you don't even have to take yours off, just pay whatever shipping is and I'll send'er on over.

Before and After picts will be required -- everyone on FTE with a pre-'08 Torqshift will want to see it
 
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HEHEHE! This just started out as a simple question. Now you guys are acting like teen agers waiting to sneak into a peep show
 
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HEHEHE! This just started out as a simple question. Now you guys are acting like teen agers waiting to sneak into a peep show
Nah Pic's or it didn't Happen
 
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Looks like you're a concrete guy too. That drain pan more known for mixing concrete then draining ATF.
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Originally Posted by Mark Kovalsky
And has anyone considered that the air around the trans pan is HOT? You can't cool the trans with hot air, cooling fins tubes or not.
Yeah, the air around the pan would certainly be "warm" since most of that air comes from the (hot) radiator discharge and engine compartment.

Trying to make a heat exchanger work in that environment would be akin to placing a conventional trans cooler behind the radiator. it would cool the fluid if the air was cooler than the fluid......... since the that air is not very cool, it couldn't do much....

I would rather just use a conventional heat exchanger and either put it front of the radiator or some place else where it can get a good supply of ambient air...........
 
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Originally Posted by chaser1602
Has anyone done any research why you have to change the pan? Why not just use the 08 filter? Cant some heat and a hammer fix the situation?
That "08" filter appears quite a bit larger than the original one
(the surface area of "tight" filter media would have to be more to achieve an adequate flow) .

I would have to guess that the pan is "just-right" to fit the filter. It doesn't take much increase in pan dimensions to cause a significant volume increase...

"Heat and hammer"? for a roughly $60 pan purchase? I wouldn't waste my time trying to "modify" a pan that costs less than an oil change.............. (or less than a tank of fuel!!)


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Exactly

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I updated the original post with the external filter location, and video of it's removal.

whoops, looks like page 1 self destructed.
 
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Thanks for posting, that is great info...Bookmarked
 
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BTW--What's the recommended change interval for the '08 in pan filter?
 


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