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Old 01-24-2015, 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by bbf385
Strange. I have seen a zf with a 351, 460 and 7.3. I have heard of them behind the 300.
I thought the only F250 with a 302 were the light duty 302/m5od/semi-float sterling variety.
You may be right. I remember 351 f250s had the zf which would bolt to a 302 or 4.9. Its easy to tellthe difference between the two trannies.
 
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I am NOT going to buy a new truck and will not tolerate any "buy a new truck" or "buy a 4x4" responses
Sorry but you're going to have to tolerate another "buy a 4x4 response" There is no logic in what you are asking.
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I understand it will be a lot of work but I'm never going to get rid of the old girl.
Well then what do you consider the "old girl" to be? Cause it sounds to me like you plan on replacing at least 50% of her. You're planning on replacing the;
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axles, suspension, transmission, transfer case and driveshafts.
Possibly swap cab and nose to my truck due to body damage on mine.
All to keep the bed, an engine with 182k miles on it, and the 2WD frame that you'll need to modify of the old girl that you'll never get rid off? And you intend to "buy a 4x4" to do it.

I can join in and go on about the issues that others have mentioned but most important I should add that if you need to ask
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Will the 250 d60 ttb bolt in the same way the 150 2wd ttb does? (I know a d44 will but unsure about the d60)

Does the 4x4 f250 have leaf springs or coil springs in the front?

If it has leaf springs and the ttb mounts are different/ in different spots what is involved in making things work?
Then you're not ready to take on this level of work. I don't want to sound harsh and FTE is great. A lot of people here including myself all about helping other Ford Truck owners but I think I'm best helping you by pointing out this harsh truth and talking you out of this.

BTW the answers are, as others have said;

You mean D50TTB not D60, but an 87 regular cab is likely a D44TTB which would actually be better for you.

It has leaf springs, and you'll need to swap on or make spring mounts and a few other brackets/mounts.

Bottom line, you're MUCH better off if you can find a better 4WD truck to buy. Maybe one with a bad engine and bed that you can swap your 6 and bed to. That's all you're keeping anyway of the "old girl" with your current plan.


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Also this donor is likely wrong, as you're asking if it's leaf or coil I'd assume you've only seen it in an add and are going by what it says in the add. Either this truck has been modified or the add is wrong. As others have said 302/ZF combos weren't stock. Depends on where the seller is wrong, it's likely either a F250LD with a 302, which means it's not a ZF5 but a M5OD and a semi-float rear axle. Or it's a F250HD and it's a 351 not 302, they look similar, in which case it would be a ZF5 and full float rear axle.
 
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Old 01-24-2015, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by BruteFord
Sorry but you're going to have to tolerate another "buy a 4x4 response" There is no logic in what you are asking.

Well then what do you consider the "old girl" to be? Cause it sounds to me like you plan on replacing at least 50% of her. You're planning on replacing the;

All to keep the bed, an engine with 182k miles on it, and the 2WD frame that you'll need to modify of the old girl that you'll never get rid off? And you intend to "buy a 4x4" to do it.

I can join in and go on about the issues that others have mentioned but most important I should add that if you need to ask

Then you're not ready to take on this level of work. I don't want to sound harsh and FTE is great. A lot of people here including myself all about helping other Ford Truck owners but I think I'm best helping you by pointing out this harsh truth and talking you out of this.

BTW the answers are, as others have said;

You mean D50TTB not D60, but an 87 regular cab is likely a D44TTB which would actually be better for you.

It has leaf springs, and you'll need to swap on or make spring mounts and a few other brackets/mounts.

Bottom line, you're MUCH better off if you can find a better 4WD truck to buy. Maybe one with a bad engine and bed that you can swap your 6 and bed to. That's all you're keeping anyway of the "old girl" with your current plan.


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Also this donor is likely wrong, as you're asking if it's leaf or coil I'd assume you've only seen it in an add and are going by what it says in the add. Either this truck has been modified or the add is wrong. As others have said 302/ZF combos weren't stock. Depends on where the seller is wrong, it's likely either a F250LD with a 302, which means it's not a ZF5 but a M5OD and a semi-float rear axle. Or it's a F250HD and it's a 351 not 302, they look similar, in which case it would be a ZF5 and full float rear axle.
Thank you for the information, I only know what I've read about the f250s (I know more about the f150) that's why I came here to ask. And I have not seen the truck I just assumed being that it was a 250 it would have the zf behind the motor. Honestly the guy seems like a bit of a space head that doesn't know much about his truck. Im ready to take on anything but to mount a leaf spring front end to my truck would be useless to me, so it's not worth the extra work. I guess my main point behind the post was to get some more information before I went through with buying the f250. FTE is great a lot of info from here. Sorry if I come across as rude or uneducated, I'm on my phone most of the time so it's a P.I.A. To type. I love the site and hope to not only gain information but share what I've learned with others.
 
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No problems.. i think your next step is confirm it has the zf5 and not a m5od
 
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Yeah, if it is a ZF5, then it's also likely a 351, a full float and a D44HD. That is a lot of good truck for $400. A good small block 4WD ZF5 alone is worth $400 easy, so still a good buy if it's a ZF5 no matter what.


Maybe the broken frame isn't as bad as the seller thinks. In which case you could get a fantastic deal on one heck of a truck that likely fits your needs quite well as it is.
 
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Well unfortunately I'm not gonna be able to come up with the funds for the parts truck, im broke with big dreams lol, so it's gonna have to wait until I can afford another parts truck or just transmission/transfer case , I did locate a straight axle d44 out of a 78 bronco all set up for a SAS ready to throw into my truck for 350$ and he's willing to wait for my tax return, so there's one big step. I'm not gonna start any work until I have all the parts I need, and some spare cash incase something goes wrong, because this is my daily driver.
 
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If you can find F150 4x4 parts, it is pretty much a bolt in operation. My dad had a 82 F150, 300-stick-2wd, he bolted in 86 automatic-4wd. The F250 leaf spring deal might be an issue.
 
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Your bet bet is probably going to be to find an f150 and swap everything in. I did this swap with my truck and it's all bolt in. I bought an 83 f150 and swapped the axles, tranny, and transfer case into my 87 f150 and it was all bolt it and wasn't hard at all. I don't believe going to leafs is really worth it especially since what you seem to be using your truck for since u said it's not worth it to you. But buying an f150 for parts and bolting everything in is your best bet
 
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